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Old 07-08-2020, 07:30 PM   #26
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Old 07-10-2020, 07:48 AM   #27
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Moreso wondering if the company has to track mileage, daily, as an o/o would have to. Car is 100% only driven for business.
In theory you don't have to, especially if it's something that's purpose built like a 3-ton truck for example or even a pickup truck. However, I tell my all my clients that best practice is to keep a log anyway, in case the CRA comes knocking.
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Last year Hyundai raced both the I30n, and the Veloster N at the N24. They seem like a hell of a deal.
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Old 07-10-2020, 10:23 AM   #29
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I really appreciate all the replies from everyone! Been super busy at work since I posted this and haven't had time to sit down and reply. The update is that my boss (I'm being contracted) will be providing me one of their extra vehicles for a couple of months since they don't want me to incur the risk/cost when I'm just starting up. Super nice of them - so I don't need to worry about the daily until later in the year when they need the car back. I will most likely be revisiting this topic closer to the end of the year so I will be bumping it back up when the time comes.

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Have driven Golf 1.4T/1.8T/R.
Have driven Civic Touring Hatch.
  • Highway Driving/Longer Trips: how often do you do these? I find the Civic really loud as far as road and wind noise goes. I've done 8 hours in a Golf with no complaints.
  • Comfort: IMO the Golf's ride is shockingly good - it drives like a much bigger car as far as ride comfort goes. Felt door seals make for good noise comfort.
  • Cargo Space: how much do you need of this? The Golf has more small item storage (phone cubby under the infotainment, much larger compartment on the left of the steering wheel) but the Civic has much more outright storage (12 big rubbermaid totes vs. 9 in the Golf). For me, my road bike literally JUST fits in the Golf, so if I were taller or had a larger bike, I'd need the Civic.
  • Driver Assist: Both don't have full speed auto steer but the Golf gets marks docked for not having a true stop and go radar cruise on the GTI (requires you to brake from 2kmh down to 0. The Golf R has a electronic parking brake and full stop and go). The one feature that's bumped me up to the 800/month lease range is the full speed auto steer because I don't add value when steering in Lions Gate/Massey/Oak traffic jams and I'm often dead af after long days dancing or training for triathlon.
  • Transmission: I hear the Civic transmission ain't great but haven't driven it yet. I hear the GTI/R clutch is pretty weak - like slipping after a couple hard launches. Not sure if you have an S/O or friends who might drive it on a road trip, but the DSG might be a nice option to have.
  • Fun: The Golf R was fun because it's just so capable but it's not super engaging. I hear the GTI is more engaging in general. I think the Civic Type R is the one to go for if you wanted something real fun... but since this is your more 'practical' car, not sure how much that matters.

Have you considered the Mercedes C class wagon?
Thanks for your detailed comparison - not a fan of MB hah
I most likely will be doing less than 90-95% city driving so the Driver's Assist is not of much use to me. But I do prefer a larger cargo space with the seats up - so the Civic is really attractive with it being the largest. I will need to drive both of them in the near future to really get a feel for them though.


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I didn't put much thought into this one but I wasn't really digging the centre console and the screen. I guess I will go into the dealer and give it a quick cross shop as well

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i was thinking the leaf would satisfy the hatch portion, and the gas savings for that amount of travel would put a dent on costs
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If you do a lot of city commutes, many of my wife's colleagues drive some form of Hybrid or pure BEV. This cuts significant portion of commuting cost. And if you go with BEV or PHEV, you can even receive the full $8000 subsidy when leasing 3+ years, cutting your cost even further.

You already have a fun car (M3), a boring car that'd get you from A-B reliably and cheaply would be my main focus if I were you. Or if you go something like a Tesla... fun/cost efficient can co-exist.
I'd need to park my car on the street at home and there are no EV stations within walkable distance from my house so I don't think that will be viable.
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I didn't put much thought into this one but I wasn't really digging the centre console and the screen. I guess I will go into the dealer and give it a quick cross shop as well

I didn't either at first but their infotainment is leaps and bounds above the CTR's. And all the creature comforts that come stock makes it a way better daily than the R. Too bad I couldn't convince the wife to drive stick so we got the DCT.
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The update is that my boss (I'm being contracted) will be providing me one of their extra vehicles for a couple of months since they don't want me to incur the risk/cost when I'm just starting up. Super nice of them - so I don't need to worry about the daily until later in the year when they need the car back.
I'm assuming you have a new employer since the one I know about would know that this is a HUGE liability on both parties. If you're knowingly working as a contractor / self-employed, and you are ONLY working for this one company, the CRA may consider this as a way to evade payroll taxes. As a contractor or self employed individual, you set your own rates, schedule, and rules. If all of those things are set for you, you are effectively, an employee who's working with their employer to evade payroll taxes. This means you will not be covered under WorkSafe as well.
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FWIW, I still see a lot of 2019 Golf Sportwagons/Alltracks online that you might be able to get on the cheap. They come with the 1.8T and a 6-speed (as opposed to the -2018 regular Golfs which only get a 5-speed with the 1.8T).
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I'd need to park my car on the street at home and there are no EV stations within walkable distance from my house so I don't think that will be viable.
it'll be a lifestyle change forsure. my friend lives in a condo where he can't charge (strata won't let him) his tesla in his underground parkade and he charges where there's public stations while doing things like going for coffee, etc.
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