A sad day for Honda fans

[hirevtuner]

killing off the Fit, Civic Coupe & 6 speed Accord

https://www.motor1.com/news/434539/honda-fit-civic-coupe-killed/#:~:text=Well%2C%20that's%20a%20whole%20bunch,of%2 0the%202020%20model%20year.

[320icar]

Welcome to the ford family of disappointment

Ford today announced it will phase out most cars it sells in North America. According to its latest financial release, the auto giant “will transition to two vehicles” — the Mustang and an unannounced vehicle, the Focus Active, being the only traditional cars it sells in the region. Ford sees 90 percent of its North America portfolio in trucks, utilities and commercial vehicles. Citing a reduction in consumer demand and product profitability, Ford is in turn not investing in the next generation of sedans. The Taurus is no more.

And funny enough, they also cancelled the focus active LOL so just the mustang...

[Teriyaki]

I for one, welcome our new crossover overlords. Not.

[JDMDreams]

I'm surprised to see that for the accord, at least you can still get it in the type r. But the civic and fit designs are pretty ugly.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

I'm surprised to see that for the accord, at least you can still get it in the type r. But the civic and fit designs are pretty ugly.

The writing is on the wall when you consider that no one other than Honda sells a FWD mid-size Sedan offers a manual anymore.

A bit surprised about the Fit but I guess small cars like that just aren't popular here.

[Akinari]

Not surprised at all, given the global circumstances. Cutting off unprofitable models makes perfect sense to me.

Generally speaking, people who still complain about the lack of manual options on the market, are likely part of the crowd of people who were never gonna buy a new family sedan or whatever with a manual anyway. The same type of person who calls the 86 or R35 GTR slow and lame, but have never even sat inside of one before.

Those who wanted a new manual Accord, already own a new manual Accord.

As for the Fit, from my perspective, the pricing is too close to the Civic, yet the Civic is so much more car for the money.

[ssjGoku69]

This all makes sense though. Why continue producing in the market when there isn't enough people buying it.

Spoiler!

Kind of the same topic. Wow. This render of the 11th gen civic looks more grown up with the accord's front end.

[!LittleDragon]

When did the Civic get so big?

[Hehe]

I’ve gotta say, not surprised and not really felt much. Love the old civic coupe as that’s the vehicle we had in university and how I got to join rs.

But the market is about utilities now. With sedans design being aggressive enough, 4dr just make more sense and picking coupe becomes a luxury in itself.

[tegra7]

Civic Si is also being killed off for 2021.

[Bender Unit]

Good Move on the new Fit. It is ugly as fuck

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by 320icar

And funny enough, they also cancelled the focus active LOL so just the mustang...

To be fair, the Mustang trunk is fairly large, and the rear seats fairly usable if you get the convertible (can fit 2x 5'9" people back to back, or even reversible car seats if you're my coworker).

[twitchyzero]

fit feels like it's been stagnating for 10 years

civic coupe hasn't been desirable since 2000

why sell the manual accord when you can push customers to buy the higher priced manual-exclusive type R? a sound decision

[Jmac]

Manual Sport 2.0 Accords sold without much issue at all. I was watching them hoping they’d drop in price but instead watched them all disappear. There are dozens of manual 1.5s in BC.

Seems like all the available SIs are in coupe form. Coupe looks better but obviously not as practical.

[Koflach]

Honda has been treading water for the last 20 years and relying on the good will that they built up with customers in the 90's. Now a lot of people buy their cars based on habit. They really need to come up with some better looking cars as they are no better than Toyota at this point.

I was a huge Honda fan boy in the 90's. My first 2 cars were Honda CRX's and I still love those cars.

[AzNightmare]

Ford made this move like 2 years ago.
Just a matter of time when more brands start doing the same.

It really has little to do with the way these cars look. Money in North America are just simply going into bigger vehicles. Even if these vehicles were better looking (which is subjective), people will prioritize practicality. And a crossover or SUV offers more. They have performance SUV's, so people can enjoy going fast even if they want a utility vehicle.

Maybe just a matter of time before Honda can start slapping the "SI" and "Type R" badge on Crossovers and SUV's.

[320icar]

But ‘going fast’ in an SUV is so non-comparable to a well set up sedan or hatchback. What was it that Jeremy Clarkson said about the bentley Continental super sport. Lemme look it up

“What they’ve tried to do here is turn an ocean liner into a speed boat ... if you want to go fast, buy the car that was designed to be a speedboat in the first place” - Jeremy clarkson

[fliptuner]

Originally Posted by !LittleDragon

When did the Civic get so big?

I think the biggest jump was when the 8th gen came out, in 06.

Surprised they're dropping the Fit, though.

[320icar]

So the fiesta is gone, mazda 2 gone, fit gone, Yaris gone. What compact hatchback is left? That shitty Chevy spark?

[bcrdukes]

Maybe now compact hatchbacks will hit aircooled Porsche prices.

Car Nerd: "Wow, is that a first model year Echo?"
Uninterested Owner: "Uh, yeah. What's it to you?"
Car Nerd: "How many miles? Any accidents?"
Uninterested Owner: "Umm, something like 56,000KM. No accidents. We never drive it."
Car Nerd: "Want to sell it? How much do you want for it?"
Uninterested Owner: "Uhh..I wasn't thinking of selling it, to be honest."
Car Nerd: "I'll offer you $45,000 USD for it. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"

To be continued...

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by 320icar

So the fiesta is gone, mazda 2 gone, fit gone, Yaris gone. What compact hatchback is left? That shitty Chevy spark?

honestly people buying $20k new cars are better served buying used vehicles that used to be $35k+ and pocket the change

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by 320icar

So the fiesta is gone, mazda 2 gone, fit gone, Yaris gone. What compact hatchback is left? That shitty Chevy spark?

Unfortunately, majority of people don't care. Most people complain those cars are too small to be practical. And most people couldn't care less about fun go kart handling when they are just doing A to B commuting or look at how fast my V8 sport SUV can go in a straight line!! And it's super comfy while at it.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by 320icar

So the fiesta is gone, mazda 2 gone, fit gone, Yaris gone. What compact hatchback is left? That shitty Chevy spark?

I think the Corolla hatch is the wee-est one left?

[bcrdukes]

I'd say that Corolla hatchback will probably get killed off soon as well.

[underscore]

BUT WE JUST GOT IT.

The only thing people are getting from an SUV is a bigger trunk so why can we not at least get cars like the 1st gen Mazda 3 hatch and the Matrix with a hatch that's nearly vertical and not at a 45* angle like a lot of more compact hatches? Then you get the extra storage without having to waste fuel in some high riding vehicle that still has low ground clearance. Especially since cars are getting bigger the smaller SUVs are just a pointlessly high wagon.

Take an Escape, remove the plastic trim off the bottom edge and move the wheel centers (along with the wheel wells) up a couple inches. There's a sweet little wagon that's more economical to drive and won't fall over.