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actions have consequences. i hope this serves as a lesson to all kids (and parents).
you know what's naive? thinking that giving the guy an opportunity to play in the NHL will change who he is and make him a better person. what makes you think he hasn't already gotten a second chance to make things and himself better? or that he wont get chances in the future? where's the victim's second chance to do well in life?
He was an unsigned draft pick heading to college for up to 4 years. Being drafted isn't an opportunity to play in the NHL.
That's 4 years that the organization potentially had to influence him and for him to show real change, growth, etc. before even inviting him to a training camp let alone offering him a contract.
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yea, let's show all the kids that as long as you say the right things and check off all the boxes on the checklist, you can get away with anything and even spin it into a redemption story, right?
I'm actually quite disappointed if that's what you're inferring my argument is.
He already went through the motions. That's a huge part of why this got to where it is. Going through the motions isn't good enough and I'm glad it wasn't good enough.
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the situation sucks for everyone, but the kid needs to own up, take responsibility for his actions, and deal with the consequences.
I agree. However, what do you think is more likely to happen now that Arizona has dropped him, his university program has dropped him, and no NHL team will ever touch him for fear of a PR nightmare (or really any organization, sports or not)? That he'll suddenly change his ways? Or that he'll become bitter, angry, and even more racist?
Is justice (internet mob justice at that, not even legal justice) for a teenager's actions more important than trying rehabilitate him?
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I'm sorry, but this kid deserves what's transpired. At 14 years old, I already knew not to punch or attack other kids, let alone disabled ones.
As someone above mentioned, he'll just have to learn to be a better person without being paid for it.
He was never paid and there was never an agreement that he would be paid. He was drafted meaning the team had exclusive negotiation rights with him until a certain period of time after he left university.
He was an unsigned draft pick heading to college for up to 4 years. Being drafted isn't an opportunity to play in the NHL.
That's 4 years that the organization potentially had to influence him and for him to show real change, growth, etc. before even inviting him to a training camp let alone offering him a contract.
Why should he be entitled to those 4 years to do that with an organization? No one owes him anything. Why can't he do that on his own for the next 4 years?
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I'm actually quite disappointed if that's what you're inferring my argument is.
No. That's my argument.
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He already went through the motions. That's a huge part of why this got to where it is. Going through the motions isn't good enough and I'm glad it wasn't good enough.
I agree. However, what do you think is more likely to happen now that Arizona has dropped him, his university program has dropped him, and no NHL team will ever touch him for fear of a PR nightmare (or really any organization, sports or not)? That he'll suddenly change his ways? Or that he'll become bitter, angry, and even more racist?
No, but no one owes him anything to give him the chance to fix things/himself with an NHL team. That's his own responsibility to take action, regardless of whether he gets to play hockey professionally. No one else is to blame for whatever happens after. No one said it would be easy, but why should he have it easy?
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Is justice (internet mob justice at that, not even legal justice) for a teenager's actions more important than trying rehabilitate him?
He was never paid and there was never an agreement that he would be paid. He was drafted meaning the team had exclusive negotiation rights with him until a certain period of time after he left university.
why is being drafted and part of an organization the only way to rehabilitate someone? what difference does it make whether he has been paid yet or not?
you generalize what he's done as "teenager's actions". this is not a one time lapse of judgement or something that's just chalked up as kids doing dumb things. what he did was so serious, it went to court, the judge recognized he had no remorse and only cared about his own reputation, and even after that he continued to taunt the victim.
if he's serious about bettering himself and being a leader for the cause, great, go do it. he doesn't need hockey to do that. if he wants a shot at the NHL, go play elsewhere and try to work his way back. if nobody wants to touch him with a 10-foot pole because of his history, then too bad, that's life. consequences.
Not sure if this has been shared, but the video goes into detail about the use of painkillers such as toradol.
Kesler speaks on his experience. Doctors said his colitis and Chron's Diisease was due to him using toradol for extended periods to continue playing through a broken hip and other injuries.
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Did I tell you guys black is my favourite colour? My Ridgeline is black. My Honda Fit is black. Wish my dick was black........ LOL.
At first, I didn't mind it. Didn't hate it but I also knew I'd never bother buying. Then I took a look at the other designs across the league and am super disappointed in the one we went with. It was discussed briefly this morning on 1040 as well (they didn't like it either).
That ain’t a logo, like I dunno what’s with people’s fascination with the stupid Johnny Canuck
If we went full time Johnny Canuck it would be the worst logo in the league by miles. That ain’t even worthy of an AHL team
Maybe not full time, but what other options are there for "reverse retro"? They already have the sled, they are using the old colours full time... Flying V I guess? Millionaires?
I'm not a huge fan of Johnny Canuck either, but people like it
I dunno I think skate and even the V would be preferred over Johnny Canuck
I’m torn over this gradient one, I don’t love it but don’t have much thought into what else would have flown.
I still can’t believe the kings have not gone back to their silver and black sweaters with this logo on the new one, that was like an all-time retro look and as far as i know they’ve never gone back to those yet
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Dank memes cant melt steel beams
Love that some of the teams out there paid homage to their original team names, pre-moving. Colorado busting out the Nordiques Logo. Carolina with the Hartford Whalers logo. Now thats going retro proper! WTF are we doing with the orca, its like our designer didn't get the memo what the theme of the party was and showed up with the wrong costume.
Seeing these colours and designs brings back some memories
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, including the Canucks, but some people like gradient jerseys. Stars and Red Wings are kinda 
