Parental Thread

[bcrdukes]

What the heck? I recall back in the day, it was all about having to apply to go to a school outside of your catchment zone. Is it cool to stay in your own catchment zone now? Or are there just too many kids nowadays? Pardon my ignorance.

[Gumby]

The most ridiculous thing is that you could have one kid in school A, but then the younger sibling has to go to school B because of space issues!

[bcrdukes]

The favourite child gets to go to a private school.

[xxxrsxxx]

Just finished kindergarten registration for my kid. What do you guys think about early French immersion? Are you planning on putting your kids in there? If I understand it correctly, it will be 100% French from K-GR3.
Would also love to hear from parents whose kid has already gone through this and their experience.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by xxxrsxxx

Just finished kindergarten registration for my kid. What do you guys think about early French immersion? Are you planning on putting your kids in there? If I understand it correctly, it will be 100% French from K-GR3.
Would also love to hear from parents whose kid has already gone through this and their experience.

My daughter is in early French immersion (K) and it's been going pretty well so far. I've dropped in on a bit of the classes and it's not really 100% French but heavily French so my daughter is definitely learning and using French.

The hardest part is what my wife and I do with it - we don't speak any French now and can't read any either. The school does offer some classes for parents but the reality is that there's no way to keep up with what my kid is learning so we can't help with homework or read the same books with her. I suppose for us that the focus is on ensuring her English is good.

[xxxrsxxx]

Originally Posted by supafamous

My daughter is in early French immersion (K) and it's been going pretty well so far. I've dropped in on a bit of the classes and it's not really 100% French but heavily French so my daughter is definitely learning and using French.

The hardest part is what my wife and I do with it - we don't speak any French now and can't read any either. The school does offer some classes for parents but the reality is that there's no way to keep up with what my kid is learning so we can't help with homework or read the same books with her. I suppose for us that the focus is on ensuring her English is good.

So she didn't know a lick of French before she started kindergarten? I'm thinking it's hard enough to start going to school but then for the most part, you have no idea what the teachers are saying. We also want her to learn Chinese (mandarin and cantonese) but we didn't do a great job of that. For 95% of the time, we use English and whenever we remember, we try to use chinese so she can pick that up too.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by xxxrsxxx

So she didn't know a lick of French before she started kindergarten? I'm thinking it's hard enough to start going to school but then for the most part, you have no idea what the teachers are saying. We also want her to learn Chinese (mandarin and cantonese) but we didn't do a great job of that. For 95% of the time, we use English and whenever we remember, we try to use chinese so she can pick that up too.

She knew maybe 20-30 French words when she started - her daycare taught her a song or two I think but otherwise English is her first language and she understands Cantonese reasonably well. We send her to an hour of Cantonese school (WOLO on Kingsway) and have hired one of the teachers to come over once a week for an additional hour. The grandparents mostly speak Cantonese around her (not always to her though).

She's adapted just fine to it all so far - she knows the difference between the 3 languages and has a clear preference right now for English while being too shy to speak French or Cantonese most of the time but she gets it.

I don't think every kid succeeds in French immersion but the couple times I was in the classroom it seemed like all the kids understood what was going on - tbh I was surprised at how quickly the kids are picking up. I guess they really don't know any better and their brains are more malleable at that age.

[Gumby]

Both of my kids did the early French immersion route, and they are still in FI (currently Gr 11 and Gr 5). Their English turned out fine (but they did read a lot when they were younger), and they do well academically. I think the class sizes are generally smaller, and because the parents actively chose to put their kids in FI, I would argue that the parents also spend more time "parenting" outside of school (versus parents that didn't consider where they should send their child and just sent their kid to regular school by default). One thing to be mindful of in highschool is that because of the extra required French-related course(s), they may have fewer blocks for electives.

I think one of the main reasons we decided to put them in FI was to open up job opportunities in Eastern Canada. In the near future, I'll take them to Quebec and/or France and make them guide us around. My wife and I learned basic French many years ago back in highschool, so by Grade 1 our kids already knew more French than us, LOL.

My wife and I can get by with Cantonese as well but we failed miserably at teaching that to our kids. I think the older one can understand some Cantonese, but the younger one is terrible at it.

It's also too bad we don't know Mandarin...

Originally Posted by xxxrsxxx

We also want her to learn Chinese (mandarin and cantonese) but we didn't do a great job of that. For 95% of the time, we use English and whenever we remember, we try to use chinese so she can pick that up too.

It's an uphill battle but you have to try very hard to only speak Chinese to your daughter.

I have a friend who only speaks in Mandarin to his kids, his wife only speaks to them in Cantonese, and the kids are in FI. They've been doing this long enough such that the kids respond accordingly depending on which parent they are talking to.

My sister-in-law and her husband also only speak to their kids in Cantonese, and they forced to watch TV in canto/mandarin LOL. They also attend FI.

I think it also helps a lot when the grandparents don't really know English, so the grandchildren are forced to communicate with them in their native language (alas, my parents were lazy and spoke to my kids in English).

[bcrdukes]

Gumby - So your kids are basically English > French > some weak ass Cantonese?

[underscore]

FI enrolment varies so sometimes classes are smaller but at my kids school they're at capacity and the English classes aren't. It's also only semi-useful in France, the reading works but don't try to speak to anyone with a Canadien accent.

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Gumby - So your kids are basically English > French > some weak ass Cantonese?

Lol I guess you could say that!

I guess they can order dohng lai cha or dohng ling cha (cold milk/lemon tea) at a HK style cafe?

[underscore]

At least they won't end up like this

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[bcrdukes]

French Asians are weird. I have some relatives who were born and raised in Montreal and hearing them with a French accent and crappy English is a big mental block for me.

I'm going to visit them this weekend. Heading out in a bit.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by supafamous

How was it? Anyone kill anyone?

The flight to HK was ok. AC fucked us over good because the original 789 we were on had an electrical issue and we had to deplane and wait for a replacement 789. 4.5 hour delay later and we got a worn out POS.

Daughter slept in two stretches on the 14.5h flight. First nap was 2hr long at 8pm, then another 3 hour long nap at 1am. We landed at 7pm PST

My daughter went through a leap while in HK, and the flight back was a bit more hellish as she was way fussier. We took off at 8:30pm HK, we were served dinner an hour in and she refused to sleep until 11pm. It took 3 tries but she finally settled down with me carrying her on the baby carrier. She slept 5 hours until 4am HK. Then it was a slog until an hour before landing when she fell asleep until landing.


There were a few reasons we booked with AC, one was the timing of the flights worked out for us. AC7 to HKG departs at 12pm PST and lands in HKG at 5pm HK. 12pm coincides with my daughter's nap, and we land in time for dinner and then bed.

What ended up happening was napping in the airport, and then landing in HKG at 10pm. With that it meant we didn't get to bed until 2am.

We took AC8 HKG-YVR. The flight itself was fine as it's only 11hrs, but the whole flight's attendant's attitude was terrible except for one older gal.

I think I'm done with AC for the forseeable future. Between the lack of knowledge and inconsistent training across their members, inconsistent service quality, and terrible food, the experience was extremely lacking. When we were booking our flights, we contemplated flying with JAL for $200 more per ticket, and would have if the flight times were better. At the end of the day, it wouldn't have mattered with the delay and we regret choosing AC.

Cathay was $600/ticket more so it was out of the question for flying with 6 people, as it would have added up to almost $3000 more.

end rant.....

Originally Posted by !Aznboi128

I dont think he'll be alive for a while to reply

side note, if you're kiddo is 4 this year, you're likely going to sign them up for Elementary in your district. Registration is likely open on your district's website.

Yep, we brought the travel laptop but didn't even use it at all. It was just dead weight.

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

If you don't win the lottery, does that mean your kid has to go to another school? Or do they not get to go to school at all?

Yes, we lost out as we were #34 on the waiting list. There were only 2 classes in our catchment, and we pass by 3 schools every morning when I go dropoff in the morning.

Signing up early doesn't seem to make a difference as the lottery is as it says, it's a lottery.