The residential school in Kamloops is owned and occupied by the Kamloops Indian Band. I had wondered why they never tore it down instead. Growing up in Kamloops, I remember taking a grade 4 field trip to the school, as parts of it were used as a museum of native culture. I remember the canoe interested me the most. I don't recall any lessons on the horrible history of the school. Those discussions could have happened, I U I just don't recall.

In 2010-2011, I was attending courses at TRU with a man in his 50s who was in residential schools growing up. He had lost the hearing in one of his ears from being smacked in the head too many times.

My first time really learning anything about residential schools was when the tv movie Where The Spirit Lives aired in 1989 on cbc. I think my parents had me watch in it part, because my Grandma (not native) endured similar harsh treatment and beatings at the hands of Catholic nuns/priests when placed in a boarding school at 8 years old (around 1920), after her mother died. She never got over that.


Some years ago I skimmed through our family bible (kind of like a bible but with family letters, articles, pictures added) and saw someone in our family had once been placed in a "Home for Wayward Girls and Women" run by nuns back in Ireland. To be a single mother was a big no no back then. My mother and I laughed at the language used in the letter describing the home and it's purpose, but the realities were much worse. Not long after some horrible news broke about the discovery of a mass grave at one of these very places.

Because they are all associated with the church

assist with the memorial? the guy is part of of an organization worth tens of billions and he is talking about assisting. What B.S.


I also have a hard time believing they have no records of any of this. I wouldn't be surprised if they are hiding a lot of damaging information.

We honestly still have not changed that much, there has never been a time in history someone wasn't getting the shaft.There is a metric ton of exploitation and abuse of disadvantaged groups across the globe. We're just somewhat isolated from it living in a 1st world country. You saw first hand how ugly people got when Covid 19 happened. Most people are 2 rocks and a stick away from going back to caveman shit.

Google "MS St.Louis" or "Komagata Maru"

https://arcabc.ca/islandora/object/tru:1611
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Stories from people who have survived the place.
Date published: 2001

We'll see how long this one stays in the news as opposed to the Humboldt Broncos deaths, in which the country stood still for months.

Definitely not seeing this news carry as many legs anecdotally online as I did that one.

I suppose some lives are more important then others.

It's almost laughable that the RCMP are saddled with handling the investigation into missing indigenous people.

The same premilitary group formed for the exact basis of controlling and pacifying indigenous people -- and to a lesser/shorter extent, the Irish.

Imagine being indigenous and having to see our federal police force turn a blind eye, ignore, or cover up hundreds if not thousands of missing and killed people in this province alone?

It's wild when you think about it.

I’m glad I’m not the only “heartless bastard” that thought that whole thing was ridiculous compared to what else happens in this world... a tragedy yes but geez whole country leaving sticks out in porches and stuff... most people won’t even light a candle for these poor native kids

The full movie of Where The Spirit Lives is on Youtube if anyone wants to watch it.

I was at Forest Lawn cemetery yesterday when I noticed the Canadian flag at the fountain was flying full mast. I phoned the office and made a suggestion to have it lowered to half mast as a gesture of respect for the 215 dead indigenous children. Receptionist passed me on the the person in charge of the grounds. They told me they are not a government owned facility, so it was not something, something, something - poor reception. I told them I understand, but it would be a nice gesture nonetheless. Today, the flag was at half mast.

Indians, Native indians, indigenous, Aboriginals, First nations.... All these names. I've volunteered on a native reserve for 5 yrs so I can imagine...

I had someone tell me "you'll never understand what I had to go thru at residential school" that hit close to home.

I saw the news report on CBC today during dinner (East coast feed); they had a INDIAN crisis hotline... wtf... how politically incorrect is this... INDIAN crisis hotline... wtf.

Like Indian curry............ I mean that term came about because of Columbus and other explorers thinking they reached the orient. India. Let's see........... they don't look very chinese. Yeah, they're Indians.

I guess natives is okay? Indigenous suggests they were always here. Not so.

First Nations, because they had nations set up? That works. Aboriginals.......... that's a white man term, yes?

EDIT: inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous.

Yeah, it's confusing. Like gay people not wanting to be called gay. Some want to be called queers, fairies, etc. Then it changes back to wanting to be called gay. And, I'm not talking about trans and in between all that......... my head hurts.

I don't want to be called a senior, btw, lol. Old fart, maybe?

So, if pope, john paul, or whoever it is these days apologizes, that means they are admitting something. Deny, deny, deny................ like, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...."

Someone needs to dig up records that must have been made by people in charge.

Catholic church is just beginning to admit the sexual molestation, sexual assault, cover up ... how long did that take and how much $$ through litigation, courts, etc.?

Only about 1000 years.

It's well past the point for the Church to lose their tax exemption status. Religious groups like non-profits are given this exemption if they are deemed to create public benefit. They clearly do not. One years worth of property tax on church's in Canada would fund clean drinking water for every indigenous community in the country and then some. It's a start, and they fucking owe it.

I actually don't think it is a bad idea to fine the Catholic church to support, help, counsel, etc. in order to make amends. How about $1 billion as a start? Instead of our tax dollars going toward further sonar/radar tests at every residential school.

... actually, make that $5 billion as a start.

Too slow and no leverage, they'd drag it through the courts forever because they'd spend the same or more to save face. Property tax = HERE'S YOUR BILL and all tax paid by the church goes to the fund. Don't want to pay it? Property is seized/foreclosed and sold to achieve the same result.

-Will there be any confirmation of the ground radar results, or a second company to verify?
-How accurate is this technology? ex. could it be 200 bodies or 230 bodies or is this technology 100% accurate?
-Can it detect humans vs animals?
-For example if there were 10 bodies on picktons property is this technology accurate enough for criminal convictions without excavation or do the actual bones need to be dug up?

I imagine if they found 215 skulls that's pretty conclusively from 215 humans. I'm not sure why you're expecting it to need verification though.

Well they will likely exhume them at this point and do proper DNA testing etc

Well I was not aware they found 215 definitive skulls. Other mass graves take years of investigation. It’s been a few days therefore I think it’s more appropriate to say suspected remains of 215 until the physical evidence confirms it.

Curious what point you're trying to allege here? That residential schools didn't exist, and that the firsthand stories of atrocities committed there are simply lies?

I'm all for being a skeptic, but just curious where you're going with this thought process?

I've seen some people using the same rationale online, claiming these deaths were as a result of TB or small pox, and not as a result of any nefarious reasons.

While GPR will never be 100% accurate, and does require a bit of skill/experience to decipher the graphs, it's pretty damn accurate. GPR won't show you an outline of a skull, it'll pickup where the bodies are laid.

Because the bodies were buried over a period of time, the likelihood of them just being tossed in a pit is very low (sorry, I know that's a bit grim). And so it's likely a number of bodies over an area, which is very easy/accurate.

As ^ said, being a skeptic is probably a good thing, but your questions come off as thinly disguised conspiracy theorist questions...

I made no comments about residential schools or conspiracies. I’m simply wondering the accuracy of the technology to come up with the 215 number. It is a substantial claim regardless of the location/circumstances.