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Old 05-10-2022, 01:45 AM   #526
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biked around midday for errand, looked at next hour forecast to decide if go with goretex or nah...said clear as day

in the 2 hour timeframe it was sun, rain, hail then complete sun again where the road dried up in 15min

i feel like we get rainy stretches in may but never this on and off as we inch towards may long weekend?
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That’s the thing. We are in a climate of extremes. Gonna be fucked if it happens for a myriad of reasons, and it probably will.
The melt is going to be like something we haven’t seen in decades. It’s probably the biggest snowpack since 99 and that was like double-triple the average back then.
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That’s the thing. We are in a climate of extremes. Gonna be fucked if it happens for a myriad of reasons, and it probably will.
The melt is going to be like something we haven’t seen in decades. It’s probably the biggest snowpack since 99 and that was like double-triple the average back then.
So epic flood #2?
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Always somthing duck. Not enough snow pack, tripping about water levels etc.

Too much rain and snow, now run off and no help for fires..wonderful
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So epic flood #2?
I’m not smart enough to know for sure, but there’s no doubt it’s possible. Yeah he longer it stays cold, the better chance there will be a drastic temperature change and extended timeline of hot weather. We won’t just stay cold all summer. If the snowmelt is a quick process, it will definitely overflow rivers and streams. If that gets paired with warmer weather and rain, it will be an absolute clusterfuck. This is the essence of climate change. More severe weather events more often. Gradual warmup is a must to mitigate the risk, and we have zero control of that. If you are near fresh water, read that home insurance policy again.
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That’s the thing. We are in a climate of extremes. Gonna be fucked if it happens for a myriad of reasons, and it probably will.
The melt is going to be like something we haven’t seen in decades. It’s probably the biggest snowpack since 99 and that was like double-triple the average back then.
you can see it in whistler....still a ton of snow up (and still snowing) top but bare mid way up the hill. saw bears walking on one of the lower runs while taking the gondola up blackcomb two weekends ago.
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That’s actually good to hear lower elevations at least have lost a ton of snow already as they will have the most drastic temp change. Or maybe it’s going to be 14 and raining all summer at this rate.
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The last few years of worsening and more obvious effects of climate change has really altered one of my views towards areas that are prone to climate change devastation. IMO, instead of building -- and more importantly, rebuilding -- homes and communities that are known to be prone to the damaging effects of climate change, I think people and governments really need to look at the issue with a hard dose of reality and accept the concept of climate change refugees, right here at home in Canada / in BC.

I look at Lytton, and see how they are planning to get the town rebuild. They are known to be an extremely hot spot for years in the running. Recently, Princeton was saying that they are concerned about getting flooded by the snow melt again. I know people feel an attachment to their homes, but climate devastation at this level is not something we can fight against and come out winning. Wouldn't it be better to pick and choose your fights?

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Worst April and May weather in a long time, hoping this isn't indicative of the upcoming summer.

Thank god we're fucking off to La Paz on Wednesday.
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The last few years of worsening and more obvious effects of climate change has really altered one of my views towards areas that are prone to climate change devastation. IMO, instead of building -- and more importantly, rebuilding -- homes and communities that are known to be prone to the damaging effects of climate change, I think people and governments really need to look at the issue with a hard dose of reality and accept the concept of climate change refugees, right here at home in Canada / in BC.

I look at Lytton, and see how they are planning to get the town rebuild. They are known to be an extremely hot spot for years in the running. Recently, Princeton was saying that they are concerned about getting flooded by the snow melt again. I know people feel an attachment to their homes, but climate devastation at this level is not something we can fight against and come out winning. Wouldn't it be better to pick and choose your fights?
Lol the govt. props up communities of thousands of people that only have access by air. There’s no chance they are going to move communities of non-indigenous people at that expense. They’d rather let them burn and have people fight endlessly with insurance companies
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I'm actually not minding this cold weather, need to burn off what's left in my oil tank now that my Greener Homes Grant Application has been approved, I'm getting a heat pump installed in another month or so.

I probably won't need my portable AC unit anymore either, or maybe I'll hook it up in my Garage somehow.
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I wouldn't look at it that way. Take Lytton, for example. If I were Hulk Horgan (or maybe even Turdeau), I'd look at the one-time cost of relocating / buying out every single resident in the village versus the rebuilding + recurring cost of rescuing them when climate disaster hits the fan over the next X-number of years. Even if the World were successful in meeting the 1.5°C target from the Paris Agreement -- and that's a BIG IF -- we know climate diasters are still going to get worse before it stablizes or gets better. So that pretty much means the people of Lytton are going to need rescuing and rebuilding at least a few times.

When basic infrastructure is destroyed to the level that we've seen (at Lytton), I would be very surprised if the one-time relocation cost isn't cheaper than the recurring rebuilding cost.

Turning to Princeton, News 1130 is saying that 2022 is the 6th (consecutive) year where the Princeton community got hit by one thing or another -- mostly wildfires and flooding. At what point do you want to say "enough is enough"?

Building back better is one thing. Tossing $$$ down a recurring and bottomless pit is quite another when you know shxt is just going to hit the fan again and again.
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For one city, sure. But how many others will end up needing the same treatment? Are they buying out all of Richmond if the sea level predictions are correct? And where are you relocating them to?
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I wouldn't look at it that way. Take Lytton, for example. If I were Hulk Horgan (or maybe even Turdeau), I'd look at the one-time cost of relocating / buying out every single resident in the village versus the rebuilding + recurring cost of rescuing them when climate disaster hits the fan over the next X-number of years. Even if the World were successful in meeting the 1.5°C target from the Paris Agreement -- and that's a BIG IF -- we know climate diasters are still going to get worse before it stablizes or gets better. So that pretty much means the people of Lytton are going to need rescuing and rebuilding at least a few times.

When basic infrastructure is destroyed to the level that we've seen (at Lytton), I would be very surprised if the one-time relocation cost isn't cheaper than the recurring rebuilding cost.

Turning to Princeton, News 1130 is saying that 2022 is the 6th (consecutive) year where the Princeton community got hit by one thing or another -- mostly wildfires and flooding. At what point do you want to say "enough is enough"?

Building back better is one thing. Tossing $$$ down a recurring and bottomless pit is quite another when you know shxt is just going to hit the fan again and again.
oh i agree, at this point 100% its cheaper to move everyone from Lytton

but this is our land! we did some irrelevant shit here 400 years ago!! so you MUST rebuild our homes in this fucking gulch that is basically under the lense of a magnifying glass with 48 degree temps! lol

your average, rational, person should want to move out of that hell hole.. but it would be a PR nightmare to even suggest it
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USA and the State itself and everyone’s pocketbook through premiums rebuilds half the fuckin coast of Florida and Louisiana every year…

At least you could understand why someone would want to be by the water in Florida though, unlike….. Lytton….
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Well where do you draw the line? Because you will have to set it somewhere or idiots will be whining and suing the gov't for ages because Lytton was bought out and they weren't. You cannot just do it once and then leave it open to interpretation. There's a bunch of projection maps like this out out there.



If they're even vaguely accurate, a lot of land is going to be a lot less habitable than Lytton is.
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If they're even vaguely accurate, a lot of land is going to be a lot less habitable than Lytton is.
That’s a 66 metre rise, or 6,600cm

From 1901 to 2018, global seal levels have risen 24cm.

As measured between 2006-2015 the average global increase is 3.6mm a year.

Predicted in North America the average coastal increase will be 3.9m by 2150. Far short of the 66m projected on that map.

Not saying you’re wrong, it’s an interesting topic of debate. But by that math it would be another 2,200 years before we reach that map. I highly doubt our society will last anywhere that long haha. poisoning of the planet will kill us long before

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Nice! Looks like I'll have waterfront property on Coquitlam Island. I can take a boat to visit the wife by Cemetery Bay. Always buy property up high............ works for me. Also, shit runs downhill. Better to be on top half than at the bottom.
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but this is our land! we did some irrelevant shit here 400 years ago!!
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