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I don't get the hate, I really like how they are using their money to advance science and human achievements. Can't wait till they open Jurassic park. Don't tell me if you're the richest man in the world you won't do crazy shit like this
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If I were a rich man (Fiddler on the Roof), I would do something right away to stop suffering around the world. But then, I would be a different kind of rich.
Being money rich usually means it was obtained at the cost of others. By that, I mean taking more profits than necessary, not paying employees enough, shitty working conditions, taking advantage of others, etc.
Again, not all filthy rich people are greedy little piles of shit. There are a few who try to make a difference, quietly.
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If I were a rich man (Fiddler on the Roof), I would do something right away to stop suffering around the world. But then, I would be a different kind of rich.
Being money rich usually means it was obtained at the cost of others. By that, I mean taking more profits than necessary, not paying employees enough, shitty working conditions, taking advantage of others, etc.
Again, not all filthy rich people are greedy little piles of shit. There are a few who try to make a difference, quietly.
What percentage of your income are you using to help others?
These “greedy” billionaires put food on the table for over a million people and have donated hundreds of millions of dollars. Money rich usually means it was obtained by providing value to others. Henry Ford and the automobile, Andrew Carnegie and railways etc
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So providing convenience exempts you from taxes?
We understand the collateral damage of exploiting a labour system that hasn’t evolved fast enough for capitalism to work effectively. That’s why we don’t like them.
It’s so weird when people advocate for widening inequality. You’re getting left behind it as well, so I’m not sure where any devotion to a billionaire which wouldn’t let you take a piss break if you worked for him comes from.
Sorry, that also sounded aggressive. I don’t hate every corporation, but when the product can be purchased from someone in my community that provides contribution to the local economy, it’s an easy choice, even if it means I have to walk a few blocks.
Money is technically finite, and the more unreasonable amount that ends up in a single persons bank account negatively affects the entire rest of the economy if it isn’t being spent and recirculated in the community.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
The whole idea of a multi-billionaire is just gross. I can't fathom being so fucking rich and then to top it all off, you go out of your way to give as little back as possible and find loopholes so you basically pay fuck all in taxes.
What is with rich people and the constant need to get more of something they can't even spend fast enough if they tried?
So when is “too much” ? Like a local self-made businessman who’s worth 50 mill and pays no personal income tax because all their holdings and assets are incorporated? Is that too much personal wealth?
Imo I have far less of an issue with someone like chip Wilson etc. Who probably pay incredible sums back into the local economy than some foreign national who avoids paying any sort of tax, benefits from the system and then is just a leach on society using the healthcare system, etc.
The system needs to be overhauled, individuals are just doing what’s available to them.
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Yeah I mean there’s never a fuckin in between right? If you can’t hold 15% of America’s wealth the only other option is waiting in line for government distributed bread.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
But seriously like whats too much? Bezos etc is obviously too much and him and others are at a point where their wealth will just snowball. but I see this argument over snd over again and people (not so much here) lump like a business owner who has 30 employees as part of the problem
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A good start would be to get rid of tax loopholes so a guy that made 100 billion to pay more taxes than a family of four that made 80k.
The statement I read “There should be no billionaires. You can hit 999999999 then you can’t have anymore, you get a plaque that says you won capitalism and you get a dog park named after you” would suffice for me.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
A good start would be to get rid of tax loopholes so a guy that made 100 billion to pay more taxes than a family of four that made 80k.
The statement I read “There should be no billionaires. You can hit 999999999 then you can’t have anymore, you get a plaque that says you won capitalism and you get a dog park named after you” would suffice for me.
Tax loopholes would be a start. We don't want to say "the max anyone can be worth is 10 mil and the rest is the government's" cause that would be way too communist.
But to start, policies should be made so multi-billionaires can't exploit loopholes to further increase their wealth; loopholes that were put in place by their buddies in government.
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Agreed, but I did say 999 million lol.
The issue is the money for political campaigning, and the promises of cushy jobs offered to ex politicians by companies that benefit from their policies enacted while in office. Yeah the Koch brothers can’t pay you 5 million to propose a law in congress, but they can pay 5 million towards the campaigns of all of those that vote for it so it’s easier for them to get into power. Not to mention the financial impact of those tax laws for politicians that hold shares in the companies they benefit. The whole system is so complex and intertwined to keep the power in the hands of the wealthy.
Morneau is the perfect example of it within our own country. The guy is in charge of Canada’s finances as a whole, yet “forgets” about his Spanish villa for tax purposes. Anyone who forgets about a house they own is obviously not trustworthy with public funds.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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