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On a serious note, anyone recommend an Acura dealer that's honest (haha) and doesn't fuck around with markups?
Give Burrard Acura a try. I didn't end up buying from them but I use their service department and they are excellent (no pressure, no extra work, on time, warranty work always handled promptly with no questions asked). My interactions with the sales team have all been good.
Working in the car industry, I am noticing these cars are selling to mainly those aged 30-45, long time car enthusiasts who once had the time to wrench on older cars... but now just want something ready to go out of the box for their daily commute and for occasional track days. Now working in a decent to well paying career, and their wrench time is heavily taken up by their spouse / raising a young family.
This is a thoughtful post.
I'm in that demographic myself, but as a family man with a mortgage, I can't imagine spending 70K on a car that's essentially a toy. We don't make chump change either. I see lots of families spending 50K+ on SUVs, but the market for these types of cars is very small - not even long time car enthusiasts can stomach payments on these types of cars.
^^ plus the interest rate is killer right now, what will they finance you at? Like 7% with good credit? The numbers just don't work. If zero % financing it's a big maybe.
I'm in that demographic myself, but as a family man with a mortgage, I can't imagine spending 70K on a car that's essentially a toy. We don't make chump change either. I see lots of families spending 50K+ on SUVs, but the market for these types of cars is very small - not even long time car enthusiasts can stomach payments on these types of cars.
That’s why I’m this market you gotta pay cash. Although the counter argument is if you invested the cash even in the high interest savings at 4% then these 7-8% rates balance out to a more reasonable 3-4%
^^ I'm not even sure if this will sell much, I rarely see new tlx even with how good the type s is or only a few Integra's when they first came out
I was under the impression the TLX Type S is universally panned as not good enough and not competitive. I haven't not seen a review that puts it as a good buy, where the car is tight inside, the engine not comparable to it's German competition, the driving dynamics weak, etc.
2x on Burrard Acura. Aldric Lee is a good guy on the sales side.
Their service dept is decent, they don't bullshit you on upsells etc either.
Thanks I talked to Aldric, nice guy, put my name down... but at some point he was like "Are you okay to wait 2-3 years" sounds like they got a shit-tonne of names already. Also would not commit on a colour choice, basically if they get something you gotta take it or see ya never.
Some of us might remember from last year that Honda/Acura released a mini anime when the Integra was announced -- I'm sure if we go back far enough in this thread, we'll see it. As it turned out, Acura released a Volume 2 of it to promote the Integra Type S:
Whats the point of looking at new cars these days when you can't get anything. Car companies are pulling the same shit shoe companies do. Might as well just get a Tesla. I can order a model 3 right now and have it here in 2 months or less. Should also order a pair of Vessi's. Because fuck shoe companies.
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Whats the point of looking at new cars these days when you can't get anything. Car companies are pulling the same shit shoe companies do. Might as well just get a Tesla. I can order a model 3 right now and have it here in 2 months or less. Should also order a pair of Vessi's. Because fuck shoe companies.
Everything is going to be like this. Companies will rather sell to the few "Whales" than anything in quantity. Mobile game companies started this and are the most profitable companies ever, every company wants a piece of it.
Can't imagine this being south of 65k. Openroad has an ASpec in their inventory for 48k, thats just under 3k less than what an FL5 is at MSRP.
I was under the impression the TLX Type S is universally panned as not good enough and not competitive. I haven't not seen a review that puts it as a good buy, where the car is tight inside, the engine not comparable to it's German competition, the driving dynamics weak, etc.
agree.
It didnt deliver the wow factor as the 08 TL Type S......
man.. that was a good car.
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2x on Burrard Acura. Aldric Lee is a good guy on the sales side.
Their service dept is decent, they don't bullshit you on upsells etc either.
Aldric called me today, he was making notes on who referred me so I gave your (real) name haha
He said they're organizing their allocations and places in line and things are looking good numbers wise for allocations? He said doesn't want to get my hopes up but that things are getting serious.
But that's where the positive news kind of ends...
At least for Burrard Acura... they are doing:
- mandatory ceramic coat package ~ $2,000 extra
- mandatory owner protection package... so like coverage if you lose your keys or other nonsense (unknown price)
- mandatory all available accessories installed (unknown price)
So basically it sounds like it's going to be anywhere from $5-10k markup through unnecessary add-ons. Sigh.
I'm also at risk of getting bumped down because I got nothing to trade-in and it's mandatory financing, 6 months minimum and then you can pay it off... but no cash purchase allowed.
Dealers still dealin.............. I don't blame Aldric at all, he's just doing what he's told to do and he's being extremely upfront and honest about it which I appreciate, but obviously Burrard's tactics are... disappointing to say the least.
Aldric called me today, he was making notes on who referred me so I gave your (real) name haha
He said they're organizing their allocations and places in line and things are looking good numbers wise for allocations? He said doesn't want to get my hopes up but that things are getting serious.
But that's where the positive news kind of ends...
At least for Burrard Acura... they are doing:
- mandatory ceramic coat package ~ $2,000 extra
- mandatory owner protection package... so like coverage if you lose your keys or other nonsense (unknown price)
- mandatory all available accessories installed (unknown price)
So basically it sounds like it's going to be anywhere from $5-10k markup through unnecessary add-ons. Sigh.
I'm also at risk of getting bumped down because I got nothing to trade-in and it's mandatory financing, 6 months minimum and then you can pay it off... but no cash purchase allowed.
Dealers still dealin.............. I don't blame Aldric at all, he's just doing what he's told to do and he's being extremely upfront and honest about it which I appreciate, but obviously Burrard's tactics are... disappointing to say the least.
Damn that's crazy.
As for Aldric, can also vouch for him, he's the only salesman to ever actually far exceed my expectations on a sale + trade-in.
I don't think even the FK8 / TLX Type S will ever hit sub $25k lol
I think the Type S will - if we looked at unloved luxury sedans (Giulia / F30 328/330, Q50), their resale all tanks even if the performance/product is objectively pretty good.
I don't think FK8 will drop unless someone releases a practical hatch that's just as much of a track focused car. i.e. GR STi prices were stuck at 30k+ for the longest time then hella dropped when the Focus RS released
The Type S is almost a $75K OOTD car. So it'll take a lot of time for it to hit sub $25K. At the same time the car isn't anymore special in my eyes than a Q50 or Giulia.
But we'll report back in 6 years to see the result.
Aldric called me today, he was making notes on who referred me so I gave your (real) name haha
He said they're organizing their allocations and places in line and things are looking good numbers wise for allocations? He said doesn't want to get my hopes up but that things are getting serious.
But that's where the positive news kind of ends...
At least for Burrard Acura... they are doing:
- mandatory ceramic coat package ~ $2,000 extra
- mandatory owner protection package... so like coverage if you lose your keys or other nonsense (unknown price)
- mandatory all available accessories installed (unknown price)
So basically it sounds like it's going to be anywhere from $5-10k markup through unnecessary add-ons. Sigh.
I'm also at risk of getting bumped down because I got nothing to trade-in and it's mandatory financing, 6 months minimum and then you can pay it off... but no cash purchase allowed.
Dealers still dealin.............. I don't blame Aldric at all, he's just doing what he's told to do and he's being extremely upfront and honest about it which I appreciate, but obviously Burrard's tactics are... disappointing to say the least.
is the demand so high that some person willing to take it up the ass like that?
So happy I already have my cars from back in the day. This is insane.