Acura's offerings are weak across the board. Their strongest car is the RDX and it suffers from poor gas mileage, funky tranny programming, and lots of early infotainment gremlins. We looked at it, but ultimately the Germans beat it in terms of capability, usability, AND value.

The MDX Type S is barely a match in performance compared to the same class of Germans in base trim, nevermind the performance trims. The only differentiator being able to spec 7 seats. Also suffers from poor fuel economy. It loses out in performance compared to the Germans, and loses out being a rolling couch compared to Lexus.

The TLX is an also ran.
The Integra I can't tell yet, but so far reception seems average at best.

I find it hard to recommend the Integra Type S over the FL5R, and I think either one is going to be hard to get.

Yes, I think they really dropped the ball. I feel likey they are trying to pull a Subaru where you can roll with 250 to 300 hp but Subaru is an economy brand. And Acura is trying to be premium, even the Koreans are exceeding them. Not sure why they didn't do a power push, or phev push considering they have nsx tech and they had hybrid experience for years. They also aren't cheap enough to win in price.

At least even Nissan and infiniti has 400hp turbo.

so the Type S reviews are out and it looks like everyone loves it so far. Lots of people saying its worth the premium over the CTR.

Some takeaways
- its built in marysville Ohio. Engine, body, everything. Looking at the video the americans making it dont exactly seem like they are doing such a bang up job. I see this woman just bashing the panels in.... im not in manufacturing but id take the CTR built in japan over this anyday.
- 15hp and 30ftlb more than the CTR. thats quite a bit for the same engine
- tuning and suspension is quite a bit more pleasant for the street

F to all the guys who pulled their deposit lol
Now to figure out which one i'd buy... have deposits on both!

I didn't pull my deposit, but you've got to be crazy to pay $10k over MSRP for this thing

Integra should have been semi auto. No point having stick shift. You got the CTR or a golden era Honda/Acura for that purpose.

Anyone else not happy with the fact that this thing is built in marysville ?! To me it’s a dealbreaker. Why the fuck do I want Joe 6 pack to put together my car for more money when I can get a Honda takumi to do better ?!

I'm not happy that they still charge a premium even tho it is... car is built in USA and free of tariffs/duties they should be charging less for it. High profit car.

Built in USA is definitely a bit of a downer for me, but I also think those factories have made a lot of leaps and strides in recent years.

They literally spent the entire video saying the opposite of this and that manual is the reason to buy this car as a do everything.

The TLX is there if you want an auto.

Other than the price this thing looks awesome - younger me (no kids me) would have leaped on it and skipped the two car experience (Miata & TSX).

Listening to carmudgeon podcast with Jason camisa and he mentioned a few times that the axle hop on the CTR / type S is quite a problem if you’re driving in the wet / slippery conditions. It’s only good in the most perfect weather otherwise it feels “broken” (his words not mine)

Also artificially limited by Acura North America is a total fuck you by Honda. I get the Japanese factory doing CTRs is overwhelmed and parts shortage etc. but the NA factory is limiting production to 500 units a year is bullshit.

I guess for the money you can get a 400z

Why would you want a 400z instead . ..

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As a FK8 owner, I spend a lot of time explaining to people the shortcomings of this car. Unlike a lot of Type R owners, I spend quite a bit of time in the car, I've racked on 40K km since December 2021.

All the shortcomings that I have about the FK8 seem to be answered in the Type S. I'd probably pay the cost difference between the two MSRPs. Tbh, I do about 3-4 track days a year, the Type R with a little more livability would be great. That said, if the trunk is smaller it's a no go.

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I kinda want one, tempted to part out the golf R and give that to the wife. But only if i'd be able to get one at MSRP....sooooo I guess I'm keeping the Golf R lol

i think once the initial bs dies down, you might be able to get one later on without any markup. Just give it a year

1- its artificially limited by Honda North America. they don't have to wait for japan to do anything, they make everything in house in Marysville Ohio. They can easily flood the market with these cars if they wanted to (its only available in north America, no Europe, Asia, etc)

2- a lot of people wont pony up the 10k additional $$ vs the civic type r

3- manual fwd sedans arent gonna appeal to the general public and only a few enthusiasts willing to pay almost 60k for this vs a bmw/supra or even just a brz/gr86 with cash left over.

The "Made in America" factor is definitely a detriment for me. It is no secret that Honda (and Toyota's) Japanese factories produce stuff that have much higher build quality than what their N.American counterparts produce. My old man's "Built in Canada" FC2 Civic is not particularly well-built, even though it is still sufficiently reliable.

IMO Golf R is a better daily. AWD, decent cargo space, and it seats 5 people. 2023 Golf R 20th Anniversary Edition still cheaper than the ITS.

You read that, trollface?

Does it really make that big of a difference it's USA made or just past stigma?
Can't geek over JDM anymore?

Yes. My FK8's build quality makes a US built Model 3 look good.

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My Ohio built RDX has ass build quality. I don't think the American plants were always this bad but they're going through an extended rough patch right now.

I think the rx is made in Canada, those weren't bad :considered: from my memory

FUCK NO

My wife's RX is made in canada and its literally the worst lexusususus we've ever owned.

Our family has..... (takes a deep breath).... 2022 LC, 2018 RX, 2008 RX400h, 2010 ES350, 2002 SC430 (2 of them if you count my previous one)

Only the canadian built 2018 RX is a piece of shit. It rattles, it squeaks, i had to take apart the whole god damn dash myself to resolve these issues with foam tape. When my 2010 ES has better quality than a $90,000 SUV there's something wrong. MY dads 400h, has been bullet proof. That thing has 200,000km on it and it doesnt even make a peep.

Just look at this shit.
J VIN RX same year
https://i.postimg.cc/pr0P4XBP/1.jpg
Our stupid canadian built piece of shit
https://i.postimg.cc/Vs4sdDP2/IMG-7041.jpg

Just cant hold a candle to japanese build quality. ALWAYS BUY MADE IN JAPAN if youre spending the same amount of money.

In this case, youre spending 10k more for something that's worse. I guarantee you its worse.

i basically took apart the interior piece by piece and used sound deadening tape to wrap all these trim pieces

https://i.postimg.cc/gkhPWDsC/IMG-0395.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/4dyrFbnF/IMG-0401.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/ydGwqgZ6/IMG-0399.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/JhrwjW88/IMG-6958.jpg

I wouldnt be surprised if there was a fucking timbit hidden away inside the central console or something. The workmanship is dogshit.

Why wouldnt you want this for 10k less?