So exactly as we thought it's a civic hatch, priced at $30k USD it's a bit more than Civic SI at $27,300 USD

Well that was pretty underwhelming.

At least it looks better than the Civic.

That was exactly what I expected. lol

Having seen the civic in person I really like it. Not the civic hatch, the sedan. this is sedan with a hatch... so best of both worlds?

That’s exactly what I expected. Couldn’t tell it apart from any other Acura made in the last 5 years if my life depended on it

I mean it looks better than the regular civic doesn't have that bumper budge. So does this have more power? Needs a Mugen wing:lawl:

old tegs just went up another 30% in value overnight :lol

well...as everyone has expressed....

even though it is exactly as how we predicted, it is still underwhelming....

sigh.... let the civic have the 5 door, this was a perfect opportunity to make the integra the next gen 3 door hatch... since there are enough models in the porfolio that overlaps...

But no... yes yes... I know integra did come in 5 doors as well... but the integra type-R, DC5 RSX Type-S (or integra typr-R in the JDM market) has always been a 3 door hatch...

I guess we should celebrate that integra is not a CUV/SUV for another generation =D

Actually looks decent. I view it as a win in the sense that you get the looks of the TLX (and a nicer rear end, imo) with potentially similar interior room for a lower price.

http://www.globalautoshop.com/images...ies_before.jpg

When I saw the rear, i got a vibe of this.

Would agree, the current gen Civic is pretty spacious inside, the TLX is a bit more cramped because of the engine placement, chassis design and SH-AWD it squeezes everything in the middle.

I think the most awkward angle is the side view where the very upright A-pillar clashes with the much swoopier hatch - it doesn't have anywhere near the grace of an A5 Sportback but I suppose Acura didn't have the budget to move the hard point up front. The front looks nice, rear is a little bit weird/derivative.

I don't think this car is REALLY an Integra replacement, I think it's a TSX replacement. Same size, same power, same space. A Type S with either the 272hp or 306hp 2.0T and a manual (and maybe SH-AWD) would be likely be a blast to drive.

I'm pretty sure we can forget about SH-AWD.

If you take a look at There's no space for the driveshaft. Honda/Acura won't put the RnD to give a new belly pan.

Well I ripped on the TLX Type S... and I have a similar opinion about this car.

If it's going to be $30 USD then I'm guessing $33-34 Cad..base.
Personally if I was looking for a sporty sedan in this price range, there are a lot of better options.

1) VW Jetta GLI / Golf GTI are cheaper, more powerful, and come in manual
2) Subaru WRX is cheaper, more powerful, and comes in manual (although new one is hideous)
3) New Elantra N is cheaper, far more powerful, comes in manual (or only in the US)

If you don't care for rear seats, the BRZ/86 is cheaper, more powerful, RWD, manual...

I get the VW reliability, WRX fuel economy arguments however if you've stepped up from the Civic SI into this price range, do you really care about that? Otherwise you'd be buying the Civic Si instead?

I think for this to be really competitive in this price range against its competitors, it needs the k20 engine from the Accord.
I personally don't see the appeal of this car both on the spec sheet and financially unless you're a Honda fanboy... BUT I could just be the old guy yapping away.

Just my 2cents..

All I can say is..... FAKE TAXI

Acura Canada already said it's going to be $35k CAD.

:lawl:

That makes it a good buy then, no?

People (at least online fanboys who never actually buy new cars + not RS) have been clamouring for a Civic Si hatchback since the 10th-gen Si came out.

If you apply the Honda hatchback premium multiplier to a Si @ $33k, this is good value at only $2K more for a "premium" Si hatchback :pokerface:

But then again, the latest Si hasn't been a huge improvement over the 10th-gen on paper and it's value is under criticism.

:inout:

I don't know whether to thank you for the laugh or fail you for the horror.... :fuuuuu:

So you are getting both

I puke (figuratively) when I saw the "prototype".

The front looks nothing like any Integra from the past because it is a freaking ILX / TLX. The so-called "fastback" rear looks more like the ZDX banged a G35/G37 + Genesis coupe.

At least the Civic hatch managed to look inoffensive despite being bland. But this? It looked like Acura just hit it with an ugly stick everywhere.

I was expecting to be disappointed. Instead, Honda gave me a total stylistic disaster. I guess we can call that "exceeding my wildest expectations"?
:badpokerface: FailFish :banghead:

The review was pretty anti climatic imo. We knew it was getting the corporate face, the rear end was leaked along with the roof line. We knew it was going to be Civic hatch based and the hard points would be the same. We pretty knew how the car would look a few weeks ago already.

Looks like the ILX to me.

i dont mind the ass at all and even if the rear 3/4 and side looks awkward af maybe it'll be better in person if smaller than tlx

i think type S can still 'save it' if it's a 'touring' type-R at a lower cost even if it resembles nothing like the integra/rsx

The vast majority of the comment section at various car mags seem to be very negative towards the looks of the car -- ahem... can't say I'm surprised. I wonder what the higher ups are thinking / saying now given the public's response.

Externally, of course they can't acknowledge that they fxxked up and that the car looks ugly. But internally, I would at least expect some level of honest discussion to salvage the poor response.

What do you think Acura can possible do to save this disaster? What do you think happened at the boardroom?

Boardrooms are always full of people that are out of touch with their target market, and most decision-makers get to the top because they know the right people/say the right things along the way. You don't get to the top of a corporate environment by being disagreeable with the people you report to. The most common cliche used today is the "customer experience," but this is thrown around by people that aren't even customers of the product lol.

They can't save it and it will sell as poorly as the ILX before it.