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Old 12-19-2021, 09:37 AM   #76
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Now this is one car that you might have a choice of inventory on the lot ... cuz it is so hideous looking.
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Embargo on the reviews end tomorrow 6am PST. Very curious to see how the platform performs regardless of how unattractive it is.
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I really wonder why they got rid of the hatch. Considering Subaru people love hatches and wagons. Even civic is doing hatches. And Toyota is getting back into the hot hatch game

Too bad the new Civic Si is sedan only.

Not a good sample size since all my friends like cars, but everyone prefers the hatch over the sedan... at least to the people I've talked to...
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Needs more power... A fucking toyota camry has more power than the "all new" WRX.

It's not even about slow car fast, it's just not enough.
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Well daddy Doug said that's what the STI is for. WRX is for daily, sti is for racers. And that they had no money to build a wagon
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Old 12-22-2021, 05:36 PM   #81
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Well daddy Doug said that's what the STI is for. WRX is for daily, sti is for racers. And that they had no money to build a wagon
Still, 271hp is not sufficient for a new, performance style car imo.
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Old 12-22-2021, 07:13 PM   #82
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I wonder of its still so low powered because the CVT will explode but it doesn't make sense to hold a car back for a transmission
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I wonder of its still so low powered because the CVT will explode but it doesn't make sense to hold a car back for a transmission
On the topic of exploding CVTs, I noticed a weird grinding noise coming from either the engine bay or transmission when I’ve got the throttle at around 50% and at 60KM/h+. I took it in to Toyota for a diagnostic check and five hours later, the Service Manager and Sr. Tech come out to tell me my transmission has failed.

Thankfully, parts and labour are covered by Toyota under factory warranty but it leaves me wondering WTF happened on a Corolla with less than 150hp and 75,300KM mostly highway driven? I expect this on some European marquee or a Nissan, but not a Toyota. I’m pretty cheezed and will avoid cars with a CVT for years to come. I really think I got unlucky with this. Karma for making fun of BMW I guess.
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Still, 271hp is not sufficient for a new, performance style car imo.
Hey now, it's a whole 3 more than the old one apparently.
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...fender-flares/

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Why the 2022 Subaru WRX Has Those Controversial Black Plastic Fender Flares

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"This surface has a hexagonal aerodynamic shape, kind of like a golf ball," he said. "It's functional. It's designed to help improve airflow."

According to Subaru, when engineers tested the textured flares against painted versions in the wind tunnel, the raw plastic was significantly better at keeping air flowing smoothly around the car.

"Just changing the structure from paint to the hexagonal texture has a big improvement on the aerodynamics of the vehicle," Redic said. With a smooth, painted flare, the air "starts to peel off the shape further back, and you have much more turbulence toward the back," Redic said. The texturized plastic is even used in some spots underneath the car, where its aerodynamic characteristics are helpful.

It's still fugly.
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Old 12-22-2021, 10:33 PM   #86
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Did you change the CVT oil? Or did they tell you it's life time oil



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On the topic of exploding CVTs, I noticed a weird grinding noise coming from either the engine bay or transmission when I’ve got the throttle at around 50% and at 60KM/h+. I took it in to Toyota for a diagnostic check and five hours later, the Service Manager and Sr. Tech come out to tell me my transmission has failed.

Thankfully, parts and labour are covered by Toyota under factory warranty but it leaves me wondering WTF happened on a Corolla with less than 150hp and 75,300KM mostly highway driven? I expect this on some European marquee or a Nissan, but not a Toyota. I’m pretty cheezed and will avoid cars with a CVT for years to come. I really think I got unlucky with this. Karma for making fun of BMW I guess.
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...fender-flares/

Stumbled on this article randomly.

Why the 2022 Subaru WRX Has Those Controversial Black Plastic Fender Flares

It's still fugly.
How much can a few bits of plastic trim really aid aerodynamic efficiency when the rest of the car is a brick lol.

IMO, it was done to align the WRX with the rest of the lineup (which, conveniently, is covered in black plastic cladding!). Subaru is really trying to find a way to emphasize/highlight their AWD drivetrain through design now that every manufacture has AWD/4WD. What helped me cut through all the BS was learning that they actually raised the car by 0.5".
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cant even imagine what the new 86 would be like without akio toyoda's involvement

probably release one with rooftop tent mount

still think the sti can save this
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Did you change the CVT oil? Or did they tell you it's life time oil
No, I didn't, although I did ask them to several times and Toyota said it wasn't necessary given the age and mileage. The car was still under factory warranty so I didn't want to argue with them. Alas, this is where we ended up.

The tech has programmed the ECU to run on some kind of limp mode so the car is still drivable, albeit it doesn't have the pep it once had, and the grinding noise isn't as evident as it was before. So until the transmission is at the dealership, they've told me it's okay to drive around like this for the next while.
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I've been driving a 2020 Corolla, the CVT is ok, there's occasionally a jerk at initial acceleration off the line and sometimes a clunk when you let off the throttle too fast in traffic. It has around 32k Kms. The interior is shit and so tinny sounding though in the heavy rain, hail. Not sure how the gr Yaris or Corolla will turn out.
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my conventional 5psd toyota slushbox can be a bit jerky on rethrottle once the vehicle is in motion and have to adjust my inputs a bit to reduce it.. haven't tried new fluids in diffs/trans/tcase

no way would it have been acceptable at 30k on the clock..if its failing get it fixed under warranty and count your lucky stars to list it afterwards
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I've been driving a 2020 Corolla, the CVT is ok, there's occasionally a jerk at initial acceleration off the line and sometimes a clunk when you let off the throttle too fast in traffic. It has around 32k Kms. The interior is shit and so tinny sounding though in the heavy rain, hail. Not sure how the gr Yaris or Corolla will turn out.
I find that CVTs, regardless of manufacturer, will have their quirks, notably the ones you mentioned. They are designed to optimize for fuel economy (likely why it was used in this iteration for the WRX.) I recommend you dig into this with your dealership as I had experienced a similar experience when we first got our Corolla. Maybe 8 months in to our ownership. Toyota issued a recall to update the software on the transmission module which alleviated all the issues you mentioned.

I can't speak to how "shitty" your interior is but when we were car shopping recently, it was quite decent in comparison to its Japanese competitors in its class. The interior of our Corolla looks and feels like new from when we purchased it in 2017 and was miles ahead better than its competitors (at the time.) As for the heavy rain and the interior sounding like tin, that's likely because of the new TNGA platform used, and also, this has always been an uninspiring choice for me with any Subaru as this is par for the course for many generations.

I can't tell if you are just miserable with your decision, or if your expectations aren't realistic. If it's as bad as you make it to be, I'm positive the dealership would be happy to buy the car back from you given the current situation of inventory.
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Yea not my car so not my problem, it was a courtesy car I've been driving for the last few weeks. It was fun to play with the latest 2020 Toyota tech. The lane keep, and radar cruise which was nice to have in such a low end car. But it kinda sucks cuz unless the lanes are perfect and it's bright out, the lane keep doesn't work. And if it did it work it beeps at you every 15 or 30 sec, cuz either it can't read the lines or you have to hold the wheel. It also wobbles back and forth between the lines. Also the radar cruise is super sluggish and leaves like a 6 car gap and ppl keep cutting in front of you. Also I've had a few times where I had to manual apply the brakes cuz the radar didn't detect the car cutting on front.

I wonder if the Subaru eye sight that they have is the same thing?
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Probably the same, or at least the foundation of the technology is shared and then adapted to each company's iteration on the market.

I don't think such technology can be perfect so early in the game but if you have to rely and expect the technology to save you from all these situations, I think a company called Translink could be the answer to your problems.
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Not sure if this is WRX news or STI news...

Better hang on to your STI, the resale value is gonna go up!

STI has been killed off for now...

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If this means a possible pivot to stuffing the WRX drivetrain in the Crosstrek, that sounds interesting. Bring on the Gravel Express.
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I would actually be really into an electric or hybrid STI. It won't eat gas and it can't blow head gaskets!
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The news makes me wonder -- does Subaru really sell that few STIs? The easy button to make a new gen STI would have been to dial up the boost by a whole bunch, tune it for reliability and drivability, and slap on a few more performance bits on the WRX. With the way the 2022 WRX is, there should be a LOT of headroom for Subie to tap into.
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Better hang on to your STI, the resale value is gonna go up!

STI has been killed off for now...

https://www.thedrive.com/news/44717/...an-sti-version
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If this means a possible pivot to stuffing the WRX drivetrain in the Crosstrek, that sounds interesting. Bring on the Gravel Express.
A guy recently took his 2013 crosstrek and swapped in an entire 2018 STi. I’m talking motor, drivetrain, subframes, interior (Seats dash door cards headliner etc) and virtually the ENTIRE project was bolt on.

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The news makes me wonder -- does Subaru really sell that few STIs? The easy button to make a new gen STI would have been to dial up the boost by a whole bunch, tune it for reliability and drivability, and slap on a few more performance bits on the WRX. With the way the 2022 WRX is, there should be a LOT of headroom for Subie to tap into.
They should have built one last crazy STi to end a era of gasoline STis. Number plate it and send it out with a bang.
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