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Old 09-02-2021, 02:11 PM   #1
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The All-New 2022 Subaru WRX. Being announced in 7 days

Pretty excited for this, would love to replace my s4 with a new STi which will hopefully be soon behind, hatchback and dsg are probably wishful thinking. Interested to see what the new powertrain is like fa24dit with a pretty bump hopefully

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Out of curiosity (and to be clear, I am not judging your decision) but what was the thought process or rationale in moving from you S4 to WRX?
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I actually went from a 2016 wrx sti to a S4. S4 is 100 x better IMO.
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I’m on the STi forums and every week there are topics made about “2021 STi, or 2022?” And the overwhelming answer is get the 2021. All of it with the same reason; we know all the problems with the ej257. What if the FA is worse?

I don’t buy it. I’m sure the new FA will be fantastic. It already is pretty good in the wrx
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Is it all new?
Or does it look like the last year model, with new trim, so its all new?
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I’m on the STi forums and every week there are topics made about “2021 STi, or 2022?” And the overwhelming answer is get the 2021. All of it with the same reason; we know all the problems with the ej257. What if the FA is worse?

I don’t buy it. I’m sure the new FA will be fantastic. It already is pretty good in the wrx
I'm cautiously optimistic about the new platform. I'll be looking forward to a 2023 model year (never buy first year) when they are off lease in 2027. lol
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Is it all new?
Or does it look like the last year model, with new trim, so its all new?
Well the current gen WRX is based on the last gen Impreza so one can assume the new WRX will be based on the current gen Impreza.
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Out of curiosity (and to be clear, I am not judging your decision) but what was the thought process or rationale in moving from you S4 to WRX?
I can (barely) afford a new japanese or an out of warranty German. By the time a new STi is released my s4 will probably be close to 10yo and 150k. Its been reliable but I don't want to press my luck. The WRX/sti also seem to retain their value quite well.
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I’m on the STi forums and every week there are topics made about “2021 STi, or 2022?” And the overwhelming answer is get the 2021. All of it with the same reason; we know all the problems with the ej257. What if the FA is worse?

I don’t buy it. I’m sure the new FA will be fantastic. It already is pretty good in the wrx
Isn't the FA24DIT already available in the Ascent in a lower state of tune? If there are common problems with it, I would expect people to have already heard about some of them.

I don't have an axe to grind with the old EJ, but a replacement with something a lot more modern is long overdue. Pumping out 276hp in early 2000's is impressive. Pumping out 305hp in 2021 is really kind of meh. (Not to mention how thirsty the engine is.)
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The 'detuned' FA24DIT in the Ascent is really punchy. Drove one as a passenger van for about a week in all city driving and couldn't get under 14L/100km

The boost is addicting, but the CVT 'upshifts' so aggressively, so it keeps you out of boost. It's amazing how much power it has on 87 octane

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Out of curiosity (and to be clear, I am not judging your decision) but what was the thought process or rationale in moving from you S4 to WRX?
I'm contemplating a similar euro > wrx/sti switch. Had hot hatches for a long time. I prefer driving my e36 m3 over the f87 m2. If the new wrx/sti have a hatch option I may be swayed depending on how they drive.
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Yes the FA24 is available, and is a great motor. But you know how it is with car people, they like what they know and fear change

Speaking of thirsty, the STi supplemental manual says consuming up to 1qt of oil within 1000 miles (1600km) is at the upper end, but within operating specs.

That is fucking insane. With my RS that’s tuned to the limit of the stock hardware has done 2 track days, 3 autox days, road trips to the interior and daily driving, and has lost *maybe* 100mL. And its 65k km of hard use too.
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Isn't the FA24DIT already available in the Ascent in a lower state of tune? If there are common problems with it, I would expect people to have already heard about some of them.
I read a while ago sone tuners are already messing with the Ascent fa24 in preparation and getting 500ish from stock block
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https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...l-new-2022-wrx

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Fifth-generation of the rally-bred icon
271-horsepower 2.4-liter turbocharged BOXER engine
Available new Subaru Performance Transmission offers faster up and down shifts
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What's with the black wheel cladding? Targeting the SUV audience now with this thing? Makes for some massive looking wheel gap.
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Its so you can slam your car but still have the illusion of a wheel gap so you dont get a VI.

Bless Subaru for listening to our car community and assisting in the on-going fight against VIs.
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Not a single word mentioning about the CVT transmission, which I'm pretty sure it is.
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they force CVT on you if you want recaros
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ughhh the rear is just..... lolol

and yes.... those fender vents

no mention of a hatch variant either....
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I'm glad Subaru hasn't stopped working with Toyota just on the BRZ... now taking elements of the RAV-4 over to the Impreza line too!
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Not a single word mentioning about the CVT transmission, which I'm pretty sure it is.
They're calling it the Performance Transmission and yes it's a CVT.

I guess it's because CVT has such a bad name over the years, tbh I don't mind them on economy cars where it's just to go around traffic. It makes sense to have a smoother drivetrain but on a WRX it doesn't seem as fitting. Then again, most will be buying it with the manual so...

apparently manual trans can only send up to 50% of the power rearwards while the cvt can send up to 55%

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