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Old 02-28-2022, 04:41 PM   #301
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its so funny to hear war noobs worry about russian hardware coming in like convoys.


Ukraine is smart enough to save Drones so far Just for fuel trucks.

soon as they pause and refuel there is an eye in the sky waiting on that.
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They understood what Germany & Paris has gone with rampant crimes of ghetto people there.



they are extremely worried about it happening again.


nothing new to be honest.
You know I was going to ignore this post, but what do you mean exactly by that, bud?

Most of these people being denied at the border and on trains are students studying abroad, why would they flee Ukraine to create "ghettos" in Poland?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...isQTa1lQRlJF4A

You do realize that Nigerians are some of the most educated immigrants from any country in the world, right?

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...-destinations/

Imagine that in a time of war, you're simply in another country to continue your education -- only to be denied basic human rights simply due to the color of your skin?

Fuck that. You want us to have sympathy for these people, and yet they cannot bestow the same to their own immigrants in a time of war?
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what i mean by that?..

what it fucking sounds like.
not getting legal status being in a country.. being completely evil & lazy.

Pulling the race card in an instant shifting the blame on "White people"


Not everyone is gonna be pulling degrees out their ass. there really is some trash people out there.
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what i mean by that?..

what it fucking sounds like.
not getting legal status being in a country.. being completely evil & lazy.

Pulling the race card in an instant shifting the blame on "White people"


Not everyone is gonna be pulling degrees out their ass. there really is some trash people out there.
I'm not pulling any race card, I'm merely recognizing a difference in treatment of people fleeing for their safety. They are already landed and working or studying in Ukraine, this isn't some type floatilla trying to cross into Greece or something.

So you're saying some students trying to cross the border for their safety are evil and lazy?

A big fuck you to you man.
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^^ Dude your profile says you’re Asian… that means either you or someone in your family at some point was an immigrant, you know that right? Jesus.

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I'm glad Poland is having strict entry. no passport means no data to background check.


the media can call all the racism they want but if you don't have self identifying information don't expect to cross somewhere "cause a war is going on"

human trafficker's pray on this type of thing in a perfect storm.

you really need to think ahead. it can be type of security risk to Poland
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I'm glad Poland is having strict entry. no passport means no data to background to check.


the media can call all the racism they want but if you don't have self identifying information don't expect to cross somewhere "cause a war is going on"

human trafficker's pray on this type of thing in a perfect storm.

you really need to think ahead. it can be type of security risk to Poland
What the fuck am I reading?

They don't have strict entry. They are letting everyone in who comes to the border.

Except for black people.

This is fucked up. I actually can't believe I am reading this on revscene, and I don't know if it belongs here...
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I'll tell you one of the biggest mind fucks of my life, was when I went to Poland for the first time and heard black and asian people speaking fluent Polish.


Like, the Polish community in Vancouver is the only Polish people I've been exposed to, and they're all white as rice. And especially growing up in Richmond with the asian community there.

It was one of those "My mind does not compute this, you sound like the FOB Polacks I'm used to but you're not white!"
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If the Mearscheimer lecture is a bit much, then watch this (would be best to watch both)

Watch it at 1.5x speed even

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Lol, Russian MREs that are being sent out with troops expired in 2015.

The abandoned tanks are being found to be derelict soviet era junk.

World's 2nd largest army is turning out to be a sham. I guess it's the result of corruption and you reap what you sow, but there are lots of reports that Putin is furious the invasion isn't as easy as he thought it would be.
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Lol, Russian MREs that are being sent out with troops expired in 2015.

The abandoned tanks are being found to be derelict soviet era junk.

World's 2nd largest army is turning out to be a sham. I guess it's the result of corruption and you reap what you sow, but there are lots of reports that Putin is furious the invasion isn't as easy as he thought it would be.
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Their army sucks, but you should see how nice Putin's boats are.
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My cousin was telling me on how shitty Putin has been doing and that he's in way over his head and i've seen similar rhetoric from news media.

I was just thinking, everyone is saying Putin is crazy and is losing, but is he really? None of us even know what his actual purpose is.

I mean, he could be in over his head, but I also feel like we're not accounting for what he's really after. This could just be noise.
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My cousin was telling me on how shitty Putin has been doing and that he's in way over his head and i've seen similar rhetoric from news media.

I was just thinking, everyone is saying Putin is crazy and is losing, but is he really? None of us even know what his actual purpose is.

I mean, he could be in over his head, but I also feel like we're not accounting for what he's really after. This could just be noise.
Tbis is because people forget easily, and don't remember the world didn't do shit when he invaded Georgia, Crimea, etc. He had allies back then, all of whom have demounced him now.

I think he honestly thought it would be the same, but he miscalculated how hard the Ukrainians would fight back, the tremendous international backlash, and how shitty his army is.

That said he's also insane and an egomaniac so he won't back down now. He's gonna be deposed and tried as a war criminal and go down in history with Hitler, or someone in his inner circle will off him for self-preservation.
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Their army sucks, but you should see how nice Putin's boats are.
Forget his boats or his house. I rather see his state of the art bunkers. They probably connect everywhere.
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I'm thinking in the aftermath of all this, what will happen to Russia.
Will the world continue to basically cut them off. If this was social media, Russia's basically been cancelled now.
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Hopefully, the world cancels Putin. Not the average Russian's fault ... at least I don't think so. Heard like 6000 people arrested in Russia for protesting the war. That sounds like a significant number of people.
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Forget his boats or his house. I rather see his state of the art bunkers. They probably connect everywhere.
Perfect place for him to Hitler himself
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I'm thinking in the aftermath of all this, what will happen to Russia.
Will the world continue to basically cut them off. If this was social media, Russia's basically been cancelled now.
They're right back to where they were 50 years ago. No more Russians in the Olympics (not even the ROC lol), no Russians in the NHL, soccer, no Formula 1..

I am just old enough to remember how rare it was for Russians to really be exposed to western media.. Remember how hard it was to get Pavel Bure here? Or Sergei Fedorov in Detroit? Back then, you'd see them in the Olympics every other year and that's about it. Now they're everywhere, because they are great people like anyone else. And now they are going to go back into that shell, and their money is worth less than pennies. It's such a shame.

OR, they could have just not invaded.

I get that they want to protect their western border, but it's not like NATO is an imperialist faction set to rule the world... They just want to protect themselves from... well, Russia! Jesus.
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it's not like NATO is an imperialist faction set to rule the world... They just want to protect themselves from... well, Russia! Jesus.
not in Kremlin's eyes

your post made me wonder what would happen to the ISS

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your post made me wonder what would happen to the ISS

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That's just the thing.. they act belligerent to all their neighbour nations and former soviet nations, who then join NATO to protect themselves.. And then they straight up invade the one country that hasn't joined. It's idiotic. They literally just proved why NATO exist, and now event more countries are going to join (Finland is talking about it now)
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I do believe she's wrong, but the second point is a somewhat interesting concept.

I know I'm completely wrong, but from watching this "war", it really doesn't seem to be a real one. It's almost like both sides are half in it, half not. The casualty numbers just seem so low for this to be a real all out war. You bombs, tanks, and people fighting with urban centers, and yet we're hearing casualties within the dozens?

We hear reports of troops attacking Kyiv, and yet I see the president and Vitali taking selfies in fatigues, and doing daily videos on the streets? It doesn't seem like there any real sense of imminent danger.

It just all seems quite odd, as opposed to the actually wars and rampant death and destruction we've seen in the past, and most recently in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.
love you mike but there's SO much footage of this war out there.. You need to expose yourself to it if you're willing

They just blew up the government building:

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Read this on Reddit. A redditor tries to explain the full picture:

"There are a lot of armchair strategists trying to apply our logic to this without understanding the background. But getting wrapped up in tactics and equipment analysis misses the point - this thing has very little to do with tactics and everything to do with history, culture, and what Russians thought would happen vs. what actually happened.

Russians needed this thing done in 3 days tops. They’re behind the schedule and haven’t achieved any strategic objectives. This is because Putin can’t afford what looks like an actual war.

Russians don’t want to be killing Ukrainians. Period the end. Most Russians have relatives in Ukraine. These are not hostile nations.

He sold this thing to Russians as a limited “operation” to “help” the Ukrainians. He’s in full control of the media and so most Russians don’t yet know the full extent of what went down… but they will eventually.

This thing has already failed. It’s now a matter of how he gets out of this clusterfuck… he needs to either take Ukraine without killing a Ukrainians and Russians or find a way out where he can plausible declare some achieved objectives.

From all the interrogation videos a consistent picture is this:

Troops were told they were going to Belarus/Crimea for a training exercise (Putin needed to preserve the lie, so he lied to his own troops)

Most had their phones confiscated, officers included

Conscripts were forced to change to contract status (legal requirement in Russia to partake in hostilities).

Some were moved to the border then told to cross the border. Some tried to refuse but were threatened with prison.

Others were flown somewhere and dropped off and weren’t told for hours that they were already in Ukraine.

Some were told they were in Ukraine but they were told theyre still on a military exercise. (When one captive asked how it makes sense hat Russia would train on Ukraine territory… it was clear he never considered the absurdity of it before… he was very confused and then admitted that he got “fucked over”).

There is a recording posted earlier from a trooper describing how utterly unprepared they were and how one of his 3 battalions got obliterated immediately and another got no working tanks left.

6. Seems that only the more “elite” units were told they’re going on a “liberation” mission. They are confronted by civilians all over the place and are basically standing there embarrassed and dumbfounded.

Bottom line - Russian troops don’t want to be there. These are historically brotherly nations.

Putin was selling the same lies to his own people as he was trying to sell to the west.

And the soldiers are realizing they’ve been duped.

I saw videos of Russians walking up to civilians and offering surrender and an apology… once they realized what the fuck was happening.

It’s a blunder of epic proportions.

Russians, generally speaking, have no interest in killing Ukrainians. It’s Russia’s spiritual birthplace for real.

Putin out-KGB’d himself and now he has no idea what to do. He surrounded himself into an echo chamber of servants and no one dared to check his so-called strategy.

Now he’s shell shocked himself and running out of options."
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I know I'm completely wrong, but from watching this "war", it really doesn't seem to be a real one.
At the start of this thread, I would agree that this "war" since 2014 was bullshit

I was born in Odessa, have photos of me sitting on the missiles, tanks, submarine at the 411th battery as a kid and teen
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My grandparents are still in Odessa, the amount of people that have left/leaving the country, is insane.

Someone posted bald and bankrupts video above on YouTube, I've been watching the guy for years, and I have never seen him with the look of horror on his face while he was leaving Kyiv

What's really messed up to think, is that If I was still there, I would have a gun in my hands, instead of this phone. Watching some of the footage makes me sick

What else makes me sick, all the innocent people in Russia, dealing with the fallout of all of this, their economy will probably take decades to recover, if ever
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Hopefully, the world cancels Putin. Not the average Russian's fault ... at least I don't think so. Heard like 6000 people arrested in Russia for protesting the war. That sounds like a significant number of people.
How did Putin get into power.
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