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Old 03-02-2022, 04:07 AM   #376
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Damn... the cancel culture is going strong now.

Not exactly sure how I feel about this. The Russian athletes literally have nothing to do with this war.

Is this more to do with CCM protecting their own business, cut ties with anything to do with Russia just so it looks good for their brand and in the future, they won't risk receiving any sort of backlash cause who knows what they'll get blamed for down the road.
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Damn... the cancel culture is going strong now.

Not exactly sure how I feel about this. The Russian athletes literally have nothing to do with this war.

Is this more to do with CCM protecting their own business, cut ties with anything to do with Russia just so it looks good for their brand and in the future, they won't risk receiving any sort of backlash cause who knows what they'll get blamed for down the road.
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Damn... the cancel culture is going strong now.

Not exactly sure how I feel about this. The Russian athletes literally have nothing to do with this war.

Is this more to do with CCM protecting their own business, cut ties with anything to do with Russia just so it looks good for their brand and in the future, they won't risk receiving any sort of backlash cause who knows what they'll get blamed for down the road.
The athletes themselves may not necessarily have done anything wrong, but they are benefiting from Russia's relationship with the western world. When they attack that part of the world, they instantly severed all ties, and everyone who benefitted will no longer be able to do so. Also any reasonably famous Russian athlete is likely going to have direct ties to Putin (whether by choice or not I can't say)

So we have minor things like athletes losing sponsorship

But also deals are cut with international companies - oil companies, Boeing, Airbus, Visa, Mastercard, are all pulling out of there.

Like I said, Putin instantly put them back 70 years. He is fucking Russia over almost as much as Ukraine.

BTW I like this, civilians taking to the streets to block the advance of tanks



And at the same time, if Russian soldiers surrender, they are treated humanely. This guy got some tea and food, and got to facetime with his mom

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Video of that incident here... The kid is clearly starving, and check out when his mom picks up the phone

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Honestly with the current state of misinformation I don’t even know what to think of videos like that or any media really. That could be anything, rehearsed, from a different time, etc.

It’s also like..one soldier.. maybe he’s split off from a group out in buttfuck no where, he’s not really a “sign” of how things are going for Russia etc. it’s really bizare as I said how people and the internet cling onto stuff like this when it’s totally not representative of anything really
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With that logic there’s really no point in trying to take in any information whatsoever. If you don’t trust any sources and are just going to come up with something, just turn your phone off and put your head in the sand. Life will be much less stressful anyways so it’s better off to just stay in your own world at that point.
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Honestly with the current state of misinformation I don’t even know what to think of videos like that or any media really. That could be anything, rehearsed, from a different time, etc.

It’s also like..one soldier.. maybe he’s split off from a group out in buttfuck no where, he’s not really a “sign” of how things are going for Russia etc. it’s really bizare as I said how people and the internet cling onto stuff like this when it’s totally not representative of anything really
While philosophically, what you're saying is true, if there exist hundreds if not thousands of various reports/media, with constant updates, shouldn't you consider the chances that it's real? Yes, there's a lot of BS on the internet, but unless you're full on nut-job, it's not too difficult to figure out what's real and what isn't.

The guy that took that video isn't going to send it to CNN, he's going to upload it wheverever and it'll get circulated.
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With that logic there’s really no point in trying to take in any information whatsoever. If you don’t trust any sources and are just going to come up with something, just turn your phone off and put your head in the sand. Life will be much less stressful anyways so it’s better off to just stay in your own world at that point.
If you’re taking these meme videos about how poorly Russia is doing as fact, I’d say that’s just ignorance rather than trying to stay informed.

However poorly Russia may be doing, they have virtually unlimited resources and don’t have a problem taking casualties.

Manic can keep posting “ohhh the convoy is taking a hit by drones!!!” And Russia can just keep pumping Tanks down the road until there’s no more drones left. The war will not end because Russia runs out of equipment or resources. It will end if Ukraine is taken or the global effort to shut off Russia finally breaks the morale of your civilian Russian.
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Honestly with the current state of misinformation I don’t even know what to think of videos like that or any media really.
Like I said, just put your phone down and take the stress out of your life if this is what you think.
Obviously the way any useful person takes information is to take in a lot of it, and to determine what information has commonality across multiple sources to come to a conclusion. I’m not gonna watch one YouTube video and go “that’s all thats happening” or “that’s all fake and rehearsed!”
Both are ignorant.
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Honestly with the current state of misinformation I don’t even know what to think of videos like that or any media really. That could be anything, rehearsed, from a different time, etc.

It’s also like..one soldier.. maybe he’s split off from a group out in buttfuck no where, he’s not really a “sign” of how things are going for Russia etc. it’s really bizare as I said how people and the internet cling onto stuff like this when it’s totally not representative of anything really
It's definitely being put out there for self serving reasons, and until stuff like this gets confirmed by intelligence, it shouldn't be treated as absolute fact.

However for our uses in social media, it's fine to look at and share. I believe it happened, and the Ukrainians want the invaders to know that they can safely surrender if they want. Other starving Russians in their 20's might come across this or hear about it - getting to eat and drink for the first time in days, hot tea, seeing their moms - and it might be enough to tip the scale a few times. And so on
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Fair enough, I feel like this is just Covid amplified though

With Covid at least virology was so far above most peoples heads no one would take the time to even learn the most basic shit about Covid, therefor most people never really had an opinion until much later in the pandemic when frustration made people start spouting out their uninformed opinions.

Here it’s just like, one video of an abandoned Russian tank and people (not here but in general on the internet) are like lol Russia losing! They don’t know what they’re doing!
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Damn... the cancel culture is going strong now.

Not exactly sure how I feel about this. The Russian athletes literally have nothing to do with this war.

Is this more to do with CCM protecting their own business, cut ties with anything to do with Russia just so it looks good for their brand and in the future, they won't risk receiving any sort of backlash cause who knows what they'll get blamed for down the road.
In this case, I do think it is more than cancel culture or out of all incidents, if anyone is deserving of being cancelled, Putin gets the gold medal for that award.

The point of the sanctions against these oligarchs is that if you benefit from relationship with Putin, you suffer from your relationship with Putin. Put the damn squeeze on him to stop this shit. Ovi is no different, you can classify him as Russian athlete oligarch, he wouldn't be playing in the NHL (or any athlete) if Putin didn't put the stamp of approval on it. Ovi often buddies up to Putin.

So far, Ovi's comments have been quite weak ass, understandably, his family lives in Russia. But if he donated one year of his salary to help with Ukrainian relief efforts, refugee settlement, etc. I still don't think he would have done enough for all the benefits he has received from being a Putin supporter.
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It's definitely being put out there for self serving reasons, and until stuff like this gets confirmed by intelligence, it shouldn't be treated as absolute fact.

However for our uses in social media, it's fine to look at and share. I believe it happened, and the Ukrainians want the invaders to know that they can safely surrender if they want. Other starving Russians in their 20's might come across this or hear about it - getting to eat and drink for the first time in days, hot tea, seeing their moms - and it might be enough to tip the scale a few times. And so on
Yea..Bizare. And I can get on board with that message spreading it to other soldiers seeing this type of thing using it as essentially propaganda. What a weird time.
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In regards to Russia losing this war, I mean they are half right. Both these sides are going to lose drastically in terms of this war. The only person who stands to gain anything from this is the megalomaniac that’s killing civilians for no reason other than to feel like a superpower. Russia taking over Ukraine will provide them no benefit as a country.
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As far as Russia doing poorly, this comes from US and UK intelligence mostly. And well open your eyes - Kyiv is still under Ukrainian control. Other key points are still under Ukrainian control, while some have fallen (for now). Importantly, air space is still contested. That 40 mile long convoy they're keeping an eye on - has barely moved since it was first spotted. Russians are having serious problems with mobility on the ground, and when they do send tanks in, it's with no troop support. This means they are essentially driving around blindly, and can be captured quite easily.


Ukraine is showing some documents that they say were the original plans for the invasion, and it was to go from Feb 20 to March 6... That's total occupation in 2 weeks. So far it's been 1 week and they have barely made a dent (in terms of strategic capture of key points - they are making a big dent in killing civilians and children), and are now starting to bomb and shell a lot more than you'd expect for a 'special operation' meant to liberate their neighbours from nazis.


Maybe this is fake too, who knows for sure... If it helps, just don't believe anything.. Honestly that is an understandable concept.
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It appears that any significant damage that Russia is doing is via air and missiles.

I'm hoping that humanity wins on the ground. And more stories are true of Ukrainians confronting Russian ground forces and appealing to their senses (maybe deceived by their commanders as to nature of mission, etc.) and their kinship in that many Ukrainians and Russians are deeply tied and connected. They really are brothers/sisters/cousins in the family tree.
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Someone made a pretty good analogy wuth Russia/Putin's current state of mind.

It's like using all your food and fuel to get to the moon. Then what. You're alone, there's nothing to do, and there's no returning.
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In regards to Russia losing this war, I mean they are half right. Both these sides are going to lose drastically in terms of this war. The only person who stands to gain anything from this is the megalomaniac that’s killing civilians for no reason other than to feel like a superpower. Russia taking over Ukraine will provide them no benefit as a country.
They would gain the only port in the region that doesn’t freeze over, and untapped oil and gas resources that could be in the top 10-15 in the world.

How you’d go about actually doing anything with that when you’re occupying a country where the vast majority of its citizens don’t want you there, I’m not sure.

Also when China is your only customer, I’m not so sure how well that works. Although Russia has influence in Africa etc. if you don’t have those first world trading partners, how far does it get you
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-news about Russia possibly using more lethal weapons on Ukraine.

Vacuum bombs. Yikes!

US Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield called on other United Nations member states to hold Russia accountable for invading Ukraine in remarks at a UN General Assembly emergency special session on Ukraine, which she noted was the first such session in 40 years.

Thomas-Greenfield said Russian forces are destroying infrastructure vital to the Ukrainian people, and Russian President Vladimir Putin seems poised to ramp up the invasion.

"We have seen videos of Russian forces moving exceptionally lethal weaponry into Ukraine, which has no place on the battlefield. That includes cluster munitions and vacuum bombs – which are banned under the Geneva Convention. We have seen the 40-mile-long lethal convoy charging toward Kyiv. President Putin continues to escalate – putting Russia’s nuclear forces on high alert, threatening to invade Finland and Sweden. At every step of the way, Russia has betrayed the United Nations. Russia’s actions go against everything this body stands for," she said.

Some background: A Russian thermobaric multiple rockets launcher was spotted by CNN team south of Belgorod, Russia, near the Ukrainian border early Saturday afternoon. They are sometimes called “vacuum bombs” because they suck in the oxygen from the surrounding air to generate a powerful explosion and a large pressure wave that can have enormous destructive effects. There is no evidence that thermobaric weapons have been used in the conflict in Ukraine.
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Someone made a pretty good analogy wuth Russia/Putin's current state of mind.

It's like using all your food and fuel to get to the moon. Then what. You're alone, there's nothing to do, and there's no returning.

To continue with the analogy -

Ukraine IS the gas station on the moon. You can load up on snacks and fill your tanks before continuing on to Moldova.
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Ukraine's Defense Ministry says Russian mothers can pick up their POW's sons from Kiev. If they are physically picked up by their own mother, they are free to go. There are buses waiting for the mothers at the Polish border.

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Another video of Russians surrendering. These guys claim they are not even soldier's.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...m_source=share
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Ukraine's Defense Ministry says Russian mothers can pick up their POW's sons from Kiev. If they are physically picked up by their own mother, they are free to go. There are buses waiting for the mothers at the Polish border.

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