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I don’t really watch this guy too often and this video is kinda borderline begging but goes over some of the ways yoir average Russian has been effected in St.Petersburg
I think that's the main problem with this particular "war". so much misinformation/disinformation.
I just came back from a lunch with some colleagues at Joe Fortes and had to listen to some coworkers telling me they felt the need to fly back from their vacations in Hawaii and other places in the US once they heard about Russia invading Ukraine, thinking that WW3 was going to start. That absolutely blew my mind.
Both Russia and Ukraine are some of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation than anywhere else in the world. It's becoming evident why information from this conflict has been so difficult to decipher or take as fact or fiction. Both sides are waging a war of information and narrative on one another, this makes things EXTREMELY murky at best.
It doesn't help that you also have the US/West also pushing their own agendas and misinformation out there as well, it really just muddles everything coming out right now.
I think that's the main problem with this particular "war". so much misinformation/disinformation.
I just came back from a lunch with some colleagues at Joe Fortes and had to listen to some coworkers telling me they felt the need to fly back from their vacations in Hawaii and other places in the US once they heard about Russia invading Ukraine, thinking that WW3 was going to start. That absolutely blew my mind.
Both Russia and Ukraine are some of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation than anywhere else in the world. It's becoming evident why information from this conflict has been so difficult to decipher or take as fact or fiction. Both sides are waging a war of information and narrative on one another, this makes things EXTREMELY murky at best.
It doesn't help that you also have the US/West also pushing their own agendas and misinformation out there as well, it really just muddles everything coming out right now.
I don't find it to far fetched that this could lead to a nuclear ww3
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I think that's the main problem with this particular "war". so much misinformation/disinformation.
I just came back from a lunch with some colleagues at Joe Fortes and had to listen to some coworkers telling me they felt the need to fly back from their vacations in Hawaii and other places in the US once they heard about Russia invading Ukraine, thinking that WW3 was going to start. That absolutely blew my mind.
Both Russia and Ukraine are some of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation than anywhere else in the world. It's becoming evident why information from this conflict has been so difficult to decipher or take as fact or fiction. Both sides are waging a war of information and narrative on one another, this makes things EXTREMELY murky at best.
It doesn't help that you also have the US/West also pushing their own agendas and misinformation out there as well, it really just muddles everything coming out right now.
lesser of two evils, america isnt perfect by any means and has its own issues
The only line that matters is the last one. If it comes to those (Which if NATO stepped one foot onto Russian soil, it would), everyone's dead.
Depends if nato can precision strike nuclear fields in Russia limiting their capability, but I'm pretty sure they say nuclear winter can start with just 10 nukes. We fucked either way
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China is sitting back and laughing, they will let Russia do what they want and they don't have to worry about Russia going after them and then will pick up the pieces after Russia does something stupid.
I think that's the main problem with this particular "war". so much misinformation/disinformation.
Both Russia and Ukraine are some of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation than anywhere else in the world. It's becoming evident why information from this conflict has been so difficult to decipher or take as fact or fiction. Both sides are waging a war of information and narrative on one another, this makes things EXTREMELY murky at best.
It doesn't help that you also have the US/West also pushing their own agendas and misinformation out there as well, it really just muddles everything coming out right now.
This is both a dangerous narrative and a slippery slope...I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt for putting "war" in quotations.
Russia is one of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation. They've been doing it literally for decades, and only exasperated with the internet & social media. How you can write a sentence as if somehow they're equal and have been equally guilty in disseminating fake news for as long as Russia is beyond me.
Yes, during war-time, there will be propaganda. It's been that way for a century. But it doesn't make things "murky" at all. Again, how you come to that conclusion is beyond me.
One country is clearly both the victim and the underdog, and no, it's not because I've succumbed to Ukrainian propaganda. AP is on the ground, as are numerous credible news agencies, corroborating stories that we see online, and they are being reported in literally every major news agency.
Ukraine claims Russian army is shit, they've lied to their soldiers, most of whom are very young. And that Russia is attacking civilian facilities, using tactics that verge on war crimes, and still that many are surrendering. All of this has been confirmed.
Russia claims Zelensky is a nazi, and the Ukraine government is terrorizing their own citizens. Not only is this completely unconfirmed, you'd have to be an absolute moron to believe it.
Yes, you need to constantly be skeptical these days, and no, you shouldn't blindly believe everything you read online without some fact-checking, but to declare that EVERYTHING must be fake and false...well, time to dust off your red hat then.
And lastly, yes the 'west' will have their agendas. But in this instance it's literally every single nation other than Russia and the 5 countries that voted against the UN resolution (and the 30 or whatever that abstained.) No, it probably won't lead to WW3, but it's definitely a "war".
Depends if nato can precision strike nuclear fields in Russia limiting their capability, but I'm pretty sure they say nuclear winter can start with just 10 nukes. We fucked either way
All I saw at the end was that there's 12,000 nukes...
It's going to be a fucking mess to clean up and endure, for those unlucky enough to survive.
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I think that's the main problem with this particular "war". so much misinformation/disinformation.
I just came back from a lunch with some colleagues at Joe Fortes and had to listen to some coworkers telling me they felt the need to fly back from their vacations in Hawaii and other places in the US once they heard about Russia invading Ukraine, thinking that WW3 was going to start. That absolutely blew my mind.
Both Russia and Ukraine are some of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation than anywhere else in the world. It's becoming evident why information from this conflict has been so difficult to decipher or take as fact or fiction. Both sides are waging a war of information and narrative on one another, this makes things EXTREMELY murky at best.
It doesn't help that you also have the US/West also pushing their own agendas and misinformation out there as well, it really just muddles everything coming out right now.
Just use common sense.
Obviously when Ukraine says they've killed 9000 Russians, that's probably a lie. Or claims of an ace pilot who has shot down 6 or 7 aircraft.
But when a selfie video leaks from Telegram or Tick Tock with a building behind the dude being shelled, that's probably real. Or video of the TV tower (and Holocaust memorial beside it) being shelled, that's real.
When Russia says ... well anything... obviously it's not real.
If the conditions of the ground are a problem for the mobility of their forces somewhat ironic given the problems the Germans had against the soviets in WW2.. this is even worse however because they are just crossing a single border
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That 40 mile convoy is going to be a giant sitting duck. Seems like all they need to do is take out the first and last few rows and they'll be effectively immobilized.
Russia having to invade in narrow convoys makes this news extremely important:
That 40 mile convoy is going to be a giant sitting duck. Seems like all they need to do is take out the first and last few rows and they'll be effectively immobilized.
Why haven't they thought of this strategy already. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw that mile long convoy or military vehicles. Just blast the first few and they're dead in the water. Or blast the road if need be.
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