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EmperorIS 01-25-2022 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9052037)
Remember when the US was definitely going to war with Iran in 2020?

Remember when China was definitely going to invade Taiwan every other year in the 90s, 2000s?

Remember when Russia was definitely going to take over Georgia in 2008? and Ukraine in 2014?



Yeah, no one remembers.
Imagine forgetting about Crimea?

Hehe 01-25-2022 10:37 AM
I don't think Russia is going to do anything other than trying to get some more bargain power with NATO.

NATO has made it clear that it's not backing down. Because if Russia can get to influence the decision on NATO's membership, NATO is done. So, the chance of NATO agreeing to bargain on membership is none... not even slim, just plain none for discussion.

And if Russia is crazy enough to do it anyway... TBH, I think we might be looking at a WWIII lite, at least in that region.

But I guess the problem would be if Ukraine becomes part of NATO, Russia would strategically be cut off from Europe. As Denmark, Norway, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are all NATO members and Belarus and Finland are NATO partners that can become member one day.

CivicBlues 01-25-2022 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EmperorIS (Post 9052038)
Imagine forgetting about Crimea?
not a full scale invasion/overthrow of government

Hondaracer 01-26-2022 07:28 PM

SnK1800 01-27-2022 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9052235)
Sorry but this guy is an idiot, of cause it will affect every part of the world in every level if the war does go down

StylinRed 02-12-2022 02:20 PM


Yikes :lol

El Bastardo 02-13-2022 10:23 AM
I take anything RT does with a big grain of salt but it was entertaining

6793026 02-13-2022 06:43 PM
Biden wnated to play nice, but russia is a snake. Biden is not getting his end of the bargain of the stake.. duhh u're playing with mother russia.

VP Kamala Harris in my opinion hasn't done shit and her hype is burning down. Let's see if she gets her shit done.

pastarocket 02-14-2022 02:31 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...db6b6e8d01.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0d96c75860.jpg

A war is definitely gonna happen. Biden or Harris cannot do anything about it. The Ukrainian president had this to say about his country’s army and the Russian date of invasion.


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StylinRed 02-14-2022 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 9054421)
Biden wnated to play nice, but russia is a snake. Biden is not getting his end of the bargain of the stake.. duhh u're playing with mother russia.

VP Kamala Harris in my opinion hasn't done shit and her hype is burning down. Let's see if she gets her shit done.
America n Nato keep loading Ukraine up with weapons and training, kind of forcing Russians hand

Could you imagine if Russia did that to Cuba what would happen?

68style 02-14-2022 09:19 PM
??? Ukraine isn’t a hostile country or providing shelter for anti NATO interests and is being forcibly invaded

Mr.Money 02-15-2022 12:29 AM
China's gonna join the party.


they just want to see what is where first than go striking in as a show of power to show other nations.

6793026 02-15-2022 04:29 PM
Ukraine keeps saying "please provide valid proof on data of actual plans for attack"
US response "they are most definitely have the possibility of plans of maybe having an attack"

ahahahahhaahha

StylinRed 02-16-2022 09:56 AM


This is an interesting lecture back during Crimea

whitev70r 02-22-2022 08:22 AM
Shitz is getting real ... Poutine is going into 'Independence of Donetsk and Luhansk'.

ilovebacon 02-22-2022 09:10 AM
http://www.tiktok.com/@militaryclip/...77373931521541

Traum 02-22-2022 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9055419)
Shitz is getting real ... Poutine is going into 'Independence of Donetsk and Luhansk'.
The first thing I thought of when I learned about the news is how eerily similar it is to Hitler annexing Sudetenland, or how Japan claimed they have lost a soldier in Manchuria.

And then I start wishing we'd still have world leaders that have the guts, resolve, and vision of Churchill and Roosevelt, but instead, all I see are Chamberlain's shadows...

StylinRed 02-22-2022 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9055453)
The first thing I thought of when I learned about the news is how eerily similar it is to Hitler annexing Sudetenland, or how Japan claimed they have lost a soldier in Manchuria.

And then I start wishing we'd still have world leaders that have the guts, resolve, and vision of Churchill and Roosevelt, but instead, all I see are Chamberlain's shadows...
Gulf of Tonkin (us excuse to go into Vietnam)

USS Liberty (Israels failed attempt by sinking a US navy ship to draw more support from the US)

All countries like to set off a fake incident as an excuse to go in /receive help

With Ukraine though, even the UN reported that shelling/attacks with separatists has been going on for years

The US supports independence movements when it suits em, like how they supported Chechens and the Taliban, and its A Okay, but when Russia supports independence movements its bad and the world are cowards for allowing it to happen? :suspicious:

whitev70r 02-22-2022 03:43 PM
^ I see your point ... sometimes who the villain is depends on which side of the battle line you are standing on.

El Bastardo 02-23-2022 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Donald Trump
"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion ... of Ukraine, Putin declares it as independent," Trump said in an interview Tuesday on the conservative Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show.

...

"So, Putin is now saying, 'It's independent,' a large section of Ukraine. I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That's [the] strongest peace force," Trump said, adding that that was the kind of show of force the United States could use on its Southern border.


...

Trump, who has cozied up to Putin in the past, continued: "Had I been in office, not even thinkable. This would never have happened. But here's a guy that says, you know, 'I'm gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent,' he used the word 'independent,' 'and we're gonna go out and we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace.' You gotta say that's pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn't have one for that. No, it's very sad."


https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/10824...ukraine-border

HonestTea 02-23-2022 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9051394)
I'm from Ukraine, and ever since 2014 when this "war" started, it's all blown out of proportion

My grandparents are still there, nothing has changed in the last 8 years

Yes there's tanks rolling thru some streets, and militia groups protecting certain areas. But overall, it's just clickbait news articles

The major change is the grivna (currency) drop, but I don't know if thats related to the "war"

They also spelled Putin wrong in the article, it's Putler
Curious about your thoughts now that things have escalated much more.

Traum 02-23-2022 06:31 PM
Shit just got real. (And oil prices are already shooting up.) FailFish

whitev70r 02-23-2022 06:49 PM
And stock market will be very jittery.

StylinRed 02-23-2022 07:54 PM
It's interesting watching how RT news reports on this, they talk about how Ukraine hasn't upheld its obligations to the Minsk agreement. They show how refugees are rushing into Russia, and how the people in Donetsk etc feel like they can finally have peace now that Russia is saving them lol

ilovebacon 02-23-2022 08:09 PM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/ukr...QT74YCSHSNP34/

so it begins??


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