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Old 03-07-2022, 11:03 AM   #551
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MIND U - maybe i'm wrong but i dont think the NATO delivery planes are actually flying into uKraine - but just on the outskirts of Ukraine where there is some established but secret corridor for shipping into Ukraine.
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Let's hope that those secret corridors for the US and European transport of weapons for Ukraine remain a secret from the Russian military.
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Could Russia technically say NATO is supplying Ukraine with military weapons, missiles, and armoured vehicle and therefore, that NATO is involved in the war?

I mean I hope that is circumvented cuz I don't want WWIII.
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:13 PM   #554
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Could Russia technically say NATO is supplying Ukraine with military weapons, missiles, and armoured vehicle and therefore, that NATO is involved in the war?

I mean I hope that is circumvented cuz I don't want WWIII.
Yes which I'm really curious about, I guess its ok to supply Ukraine with weapons as long as it's the Ukrainian's which are using them?
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I think those lines in the sand were established before the war started.

Would be crazy for Russia to change their mind all of a sudden and attack a NATO country over it. I don't think even Putin is crazy enough to attack NATO directly.
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at this point I wouldn't surprised if he couldn't attack a NATO country and all the nukes which are said he has are lies or they are old cold war out of date nukes.
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at this point I wouldn't surprised if he couldn't attack a NATO country and all the nukes which are said he has are lies or they are old cold war out of date nukes.
That's something I've been thinking about, how many of the 5000 or so purported nukes that Russia has, actually works? Though realistically he only needs a couple hundred to effectively kill all life on the planet.
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I think he has nukes but how far they would be able to travel is the big question.
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Classic saber rattling.

but no one's going to step up to call his bluff for obvious reasons. doubt poutine would be dumb enough to directly attack a nato country no matter how ludicrous the Ukrainian invasion is.
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I know the war is fucked up, but the Ukrainian ambassador to the UN is fucking hilarious.
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A lot of russian communication is unencrypted and you can pick it up with SDR (software-defined radio) if you are in the area. All you need is a $20 dongle and a computer.

You can also listen to these online:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...eb2x&context=3
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Had someone say "I'm going to buy some war bonds for Ukraine"
a shit load of people said "why the fuck would you do so... its like the worse ROI"
"I'm buying war bonds to support the country."
Everyone went silent after that....
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Overheard at bank today:

Student: my mom sent me some money a few days ago but I haven’t received it yet
Teller: when did she send it?
Student: Feb 28
Teller: it can take 5-8 business days, but I can see if it’s pending in our system. *checks* I don’t see anything yet. What bank did she send it from?
Student: a Russian bank.
Awkward silence…
Teller: well, given the current situation, I honestly don’t know how long it will take to receive the transfer…
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Overheard at bank today:

Student: my mom sent me some money a few days ago but I haven’t received it yet
Teller: when did she send it?
Student: Feb 28
Teller: it can take 5-8 business days, but I can see if it’s pending in our system. *checks* I don’t see anything yet. What bank did she send it from?
Student: a Russian bank.
Awkward silence…
Teller: well, given the current situation, I honestly don’t know how long it will take to receive the transfer…
If the teller was honest they would have said FUCKING NEVER

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A lot of russian communication is unencrypted and you can pick it up with SDR (software-defined radio) if you are in the area. All you need is a $20 dongle and a computer.

You can also listen to these online:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...eb2x&context=3
The funny thing about this is they had this brand new awesome secure communications system, but it needs 3G or 4G towers to work, and they destroyed them all
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Could Russia technically say NATO is supplying Ukraine with military weapons, missiles, and armoured vehicle and therefore, that NATO is involved in the war?

I mean I hope that is circumvented cuz I don't want WWIII.
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Yes which I'm really curious about, I guess its ok to supply Ukraine with weapons as long as it's the Ukrainian's which are using them?

I asked about this earlier in the thread. Answer below:


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While not being a full member, Ukraine has relations with NATO under "MAP" which means they will assist them depending on their needs, with possible membership later (which they declined to do last year)... They want to make it very clear that they aren't influencing Ukraine in any way, and let them decide what to do on their own. This is exactly what Putin is afraid of, and what he thinks is actually happening, so it didn't matter in the end.

It was supposed to deter Russia from fucking with them, while not giving them full membership which probably would have caused this invasion - and directly WW3 - earlier. Or maybe it would have been a stronger deterrent. Who knows with Putin?
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Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/sta...nes-to-ukraine
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Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/sta...nes-to-ukraine
Something tells me that Americans are going to do business with the Polish government in order to help out Ukraine too.

Maybe the US. will sell newer planes to Poland in exchange for that country to give away all their older MIG-29s to Ukraine?

Win, win, win for three countries. The Americans get to make money from selling new jets to Poland, Poland gets new planes, and Ukraine gets fighter jets free of charge.
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Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/sta...nes-to-ukraine
Whoa~! I was not expecting that to happen so soon, esp when there doesn't seem to be any major changes with the war situation in Ukraine.
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Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/sta...nes-to-ukraine
HUGE, hopefully setting a precedent and others will aid in the cause.
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i just wonder how many of these countries are also going to be suppling pilots...not a problem until one get's shot down and possibly identified. but throw on a Ukrainian outfit

what about the missiles and bombs?

this is going to get interesting....what a fucking time to be alive (not in a good way all the shit most of us have lived through so far)
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How long does Russia tolerate this? Lol yea NATO isn’t directly getting involved but every western country is just funneling everything they can to Ukraine in these round about manners? Seems pretty sketch lol
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Something tells me that Americans are going to do business with the Polish government in order to help out Ukraine too.

Maybe the US. will sell newer planes to Poland in exchange for that country to give away all their older MIG-29s to Ukraine?

Win, win, win for three countries. The Americans get to make money from selling new jets to Poland, Poland gets new planes, and Ukraine gets fighter jets free of charge.
Yeah exactly, they said the US would replace the MIGs with F16's.
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How long does Russia tolerate this? Lol yea NATO isn’t directly getting involved but every western country is just funneling everything they can to Ukraine in these round about manners? Seems pretty sketch lol
So, apparently Poland is not giving these to Ukraine directly. They are actually giving them to the USA at the Rammstein airbase.

If the USA decides to let Ukraine have them, then, well...
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So, apparently Poland is not giving these to Ukraine directly. They are actually giving them to the USA at the Rammstein airbase.

If the USA decides to let Ukraine have them, then, well...
How funny would it be if the plan is to you know, have them "lost in transit". Oh, you found some fighter jets and ammunition abandoned on the side of the road? I guess go ahead and pick it up eh. I got nothing to do with it, nope.
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