Zelensky repeatedly called on the "G19" today, lol
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63632161

I thought it was a good troll. And putting Lavrov through the whole 20 mins of rambling was hilarious.

Missile/bomb into Poland killing 2 most likely an accident or unintentional or anti-missile knocked incoming missile out of course.

when i read that they denied it was them that did it and blamed the west on making up lies...

https://backtracks.fm/xr/aHR0cHM6Ly9...RfaD0yMjA%253D

Biden just said it was unlikely the trajectory of the missile was from Russia.

Obviously I am not buying Biden's story. But if that is the story they are trying to sell, that is the story they are gonna stick to.

I am both disappointed and relieved by Biden's reply for obvious reasons, and I guess this means we are just gonna see the Russia-Ukraine war drags out even more.

On the note of having the war drag on, I wonder how much truth there is in the UK Sun's story about how Putin is having a 3-hit combo of Parkinson's disease + prostate & pancreatic cancer...

What explanation are you leaning towards? False flag? Russia starting WW3 by bombing 2 random people?

It is entirely based on common sense -- which is of course prone to error. But given how Russia was just pounding Ukraine -- including the western side of the country -- with missiles on the same day, I think it is much easier to explain the Poland missile hit as something going astray or getting knocked off course.

Well yeah that's the explanation being given so far.. It was most likely a Ukrainian missile. What is Biden's story you're not buying? He's basically saying this...

A missile going astray, is as likely as an 800,000lb airplane collapsing a 550,000,000lb tower

Are you reading the same news that I am reading, SkinnyPupp?

https://www.reuters.com/world/global...hs-2022-11-16/

I'm saying I don't buy Biden's story here. Given how Russia was pounding western Ukraine with missles, it seemed more likely to me that one of the missiles missed its target somehow, or was deflected by some sort of missile defence system, and ended up striking Poland.

Of course I can be wrong. But at least for the time being, I don't believe Biden's story yet.

Biden's story is that it's too early to tell, and it most likely wasn't fired from Russia

How can you "not buy" that?

Also we already know it was the type of missile Ukraine uses

Also if it was a deflected missile, that still means it came from Ukraine

I still don't get what you "don't believe" about his statement, which was basically "we don't know yet". Are you saying they do know, and are covering it up?

There are a LOT of ways missiles can go off course or simply be improperly targeted. We don't know exactly what type it was, where it was fired from, and what the EW environment was like at the time. The munition was Russian made but that doesn't guarantee the Russians fired it given how much of their equipment has been acquired by Ukrainian / rebel / militia forces.

Without the IR and telemetry data we can't pinpoint where it came from and the public will never see that. But I guarantee you various nations have had defense satellites parked over the area since before this all kicked off.

You have to take what you hear from both sides with a grain of salt these days. Zero chance A5 is initiated as a result of this.

Or like somthing that weights less than a 100 grams Taking down an animal that weight 6000 kilograms.

Not sure how accurate this is

And so it is said that:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/l...nato-rcna57416
Not a direct hit from Russia, so NATO shouldn't engage in any direct retailitory action against Russia just yet. Then again, Poland would still have every reason to blame the deaths on Russia.

It's totally Russia's fault for happening, but if they're not fiting on Poland there's not much they can do about it.

I just realized what it would be like if it was Trump instead of Biden after this happened.. Jesus christ

It appears that Putin set up a back up plan to leave Russia if Russia loses the war with Ukraine.

-stashed billions in cash and gold in the Central African Republic thanks to a security company called Wagner. -really shady company Wagner. -mercenaries for hire:

Wagner is basically Putin's private army. Private security contractors who work for this piece of shit:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...army-car-intl/

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...74b79d2d8fa766

article:

stashed billions in the Central African Republic in preparation for an "evacuation" in the case of an "emergency situation" in Moscow due to overwhelming disapproval of the war in Ukraine, RadarOnline.com has learned.

An estimated $14.8 billion in cash and gold were sent for safekeeping in Africa under the order of President Putin. The enormous amount of wealth is housed in "underground warehouses" through the oversight of Wagner, a private military company and key ally to Russia.

Wagner has assisted Russia in the invasion of Ukraine through the recruitment of tens of thousands of mercenaries and convicts to supply the front lines with desperately needed manpower.

Putin and the head of the Central Africa Republic met last Friday to discuss the transfer of assets.

The telegram channel records revealed that Putin "hinted at his possible visit in the near future" to the Central Africa Republic's capital of Bangui.

The channel also announced that the Russian president "considers the Central African Republic as one of two options for evacuation in an emergency situation for himself and his loved ones, outside the territory of the Russian Federation."

The alarming announcement came with a further warning.

"Now Putin considers the possibility of evacuation as realistic, so it is important for him to understand that there are options and they are quite feasible."

The CNN article mentions that Russia is expanding its influence in Africa now that the US is withdrawing its military presence from that continent. Wagner gets a big share of profits from selling gold, diamonds, etc. from African countries in exchange for providing military power to a group of African dictators in various countries.

Mercenaries for hire. Putin's military goons.

Hopefully someone in Africa guts Putler open like a fish, then the corrupt officials can take 95% of his money into their own pockets, and distribute the other 5% to the people

If only they could take that money and send it straight to Ukraine, that would be the ultimate fuck you to Putin.

Now I'm just waiting for some diehards to figure out where it is and drag the vault across downtown ala F&F

They are going to need all those billions to fix all the damage that arsehole caused.

They don’t need help from friends, they have family.

Ukraine will never recover from this.

Russia won’t either but they will be in much better shape

Ukraine will recover from this, it will just take time and help to speed things up.