RUSSIA - UKRAINE - war or posturing? Definitely war

[Badhobz]

ill see you in Nanaimo Manic! im pretty sure they'll deport our asses to the island or some inland location.

[donk.]

Originally Posted by Manic!

If China enters the war and starts WW3 is Canada locking up Asians in internment camps again?

It would be ww4

Ww3 has been ongoing for a a few decades, Iraq, Syria, Darfur, Congo, etc

[whitev70r]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

ill see you in Nanaimo Manic! im pretty sure they'll deport our asses to the island or some inland location.

If WWIII really happened, I don't know whether I prefer to be vaporized in a major city or die a slow apocalyptic (think many movies) death living in rural places like the Island. I think I'll stay right here.

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

If WWIII really happened, I don't know whether I prefer to be vaporized in a major city or die a slow apocalyptic (think many movies) death living in rural places like the Island. I think I'll stay right here.

How is the Island rural?

[whitev70r]

^ sorry to disappoint you but I don't think Nanaimo is on the list of cities to get the gift of a nuke.

Urban and rural is a matter of degree ...

[MG1]

Originally Posted by Manic!

If China enters the war and starts WW3 is Canada locking up Asians in internment camps again?

There wouldn't be enough space. Let alone enough RCMP to round them up.


So many mainlanders in support of CCP living here.............. just RS alone.


Oh my god.................... I'm never gonna make it out of hell.

[MG1]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

^ sorry to disappoint you but I don't think Nanaimo is on the list of cities to get the gift of a nuke.

Urban and rural is a matter of degree ...

Close enough to Esquimalt. Like Seattle close to Bremerton.



Plus, chinese nukes................. not all that accurate, gulolol

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

^ sorry to disappoint you but I don't think Nanaimo is on the list of cities to get the gift of a nuke.

Urban and rural is a matter of degree ...

We have a joint US/Canadian navel base in Nanoose. It's used for torpedo testing. Have seen subs and military ships go by my house.

[Badhobz]

Don’t nuke me bro ! I got places I wanna drive my ratrolla to (Zion national park, more Oregon coast, Grand Canyon, etc)

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by Manic!

We have a joint US/Canadian navel base in Nanoose. It's used for torpedo testing. Have seen subs and military ships go by my house.

Wait… Nanoose…. Does your gas station have delicious apple fritters?

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by hud 91gt

Wait… Nanoose…. Does your gas station have delicious apple fritters?

Nope.

[68style]

Does it have not delicious apple fritters?

[Badhobz]

Have Delicious Not Fritters of Apples?

[spoon.ek9]

Fritters of delicious apples have you not?

[murd0c]

So in actual Russia news, Putin pulled back the remaining nuke pact Russia had with the US today. Who knows if this actually means anything.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/21/europ...ntl/index.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin said he is suspending his country’s participation in the New START nuclear arms reduction treaty with the United States, imperiling the last remaining pact that regulates the world’s two largest nuclear arsenals.

Putin made the declaration in his much-delayed annual state of the nation address to Russia’s National Assembly on Tuesday.

The treaty puts limits on the number of deployed intercontinental-range nuclear weapons that both the US and Russia can have. It was last extended in early 2021 for five years, meaning the two sides would soon need to begin negotiating on another arms control agreement.

Under the key nuclear arms control treaty, both the United States and Russia are permitted to conduct inspections of each other’s weapons sites, though inspections had been halted since 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

While Russia is not withdrawing from the pact completely, it appears to be formalizing its current position. For months, US officials have been frustrated over Russia’s lack of co-operation with the agreement.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken called Putin’s decision “deeply unfortunate and irresponsible.”

Blinken said President Joe Biden’s administration remains ready to talk about the nuclear arms treaty “at any time with Russia, irrespective of anything else going on in the world.”

“We’ll be watching carefully to see what Russia actually does, we’ll of course make sure that in any event that we are posturing appropriately for the security of our own country and that of our allies,” said Blinken. “I think it matters that we continue to act responsibly in this area … it’s also something the rest of the world expect of us.”

According to US officials, Russia had already refused on numerous occasions to allow inspections of its nuclear facilities. “Russia is not complying with its obligation under the New START Treaty to facilitate inspection activities on its territory,” a US State Department spokesperson said in January.

“Russia’s refusal to facilitate inspection activities prevents the United States from exercising important rights under the treaty and threatens the viability of US-Russian nuclear arms control,” the spokesperson said.

A session of the Bilateral Consultative Commission on the treaty was slated to meet in Egypt in late November but was abruptly called off. The US has blamed Russia for this postponement, with a State Department spokesperson saying the decision was made “unilaterally” by Russia.

The latest development announced by Putin “puts (the) treaty on life support,” Hans Kristensen, the Director of the Nuclear Information Project, wrote on Twitter, questioning whether Russia will now stop exchanging data with US counterparts.

Putin’s nuclear saber rattling during the war has alarmed the US and its allies, though officials have repeatedly dismissed the moves as empty threats.

[JDMDreams]

Well the US did stir the pot with Joe buddens suprise visit, what did you expect Russia to do, roll out the red carpet?

[MG1]

Originally Posted by 68style

Does it have not delicious apple fritters?

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Have Delicious Not Fritters of Apples?

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9

Fritters of delicious apples have you not?

Is this a new type of poetry?

Kind of like Haiku, but not.

Apples not fritters are delicious have I.

All your bases are belong to us.


Here's one............

Man, so many members on revscene from china.


WTF? This is the russia ukraine war thread. I thought it was the no need to start a new thread, thread.

[underscore]

For a minute there I thought TicTac was back.

[ilovebacon]

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-video-1782781

go to 0:06 mark of the video lol, god I missed laughing at Trump.

"Donald Trump said that "nuclear" is one of two n-words in the English language which shouldn't "ever be mentioned,"

[MG1]

The other word being, never.

As in never gonna, "Make America Stupid, Again."

[mikemhg]

Do people actually truly fear nuclear arms being used in the modern age?

I've always laughed when we'd get the few year mark of the media freaking out about North Korea or Iran's nuclear capabilities.

There is a reason why nuclear weapons haven't been used since 1945 (and at that against a weak enemy without any nuclear arms themselves). The idea of MAD is as true as its ever been, you will likely never see a country use nuclear weapons against another country with the same capabilities. We have been in far more tumultuous times in which they've never been utilized, so why today?

Real life isn't like movies -- Countries with nuclear capabilities like Russia or China have an entire apparatus that surrounds such access to those weapons, most leaders aren't some cartoon-like character that wishes to destroy themselves in the goal to stick it to The West.

What more likely we'll see, and currently are seeing are economic, social/political, technological war, and as someone else has said in real battle, proxy wars.

[murd0c]

I personally don't, there is too much at risk using nuclear arms in a war and not one single side good or bad wants to deploy them. It's just a good way to flex muscles to try to get their point across and to try to get what they want.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

Well the US did stir the pot with Joe buddens suprise visit, what did you expect Russia to do, roll out the red carpet?

Is that how you see Biden's surprise visit to Kiev? Because I see Biden's visit as a very obvious signal to Putin that the US, at least under his administration, is not going to back away from supporting Ukraine in its war efforts. The intent is to present that as a deterrent to Russia to keep fighting. Of course, at least on the surface, it appears the re-commitment failed to change Putin's mind.

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Do people actually truly fear nuclear arms being used in the modern age?

I've always laughed when we'd get the few year mark of the media freaking out about North Korea or Iran's nuclear capabilities.

There is a reason why nuclear weapons haven't been used since 1945 (and at that against a weak enemy without any nuclear arms themselves). The idea of MAD is as true as its ever been, you will likely never see a country use nuclear weapons against another country with the same capabilities. We have been in far more tumultuous times in which they've never been utilized, so why today?

Real life isn't like movies -- Countries with nuclear capabilities like Russia or China have an entire apparatus that surrounds such access to those weapons, most leaders aren't some cartoon-like character that wishes to destroy themselves in the goal to stick it to The West.

What more likely we'll see, and currently are seeing are economic, social/political, technological war, and as someone else has said in real battle, proxy wars.

While I agree that nuclear-capable countries are fully aware of MAD, I don't think we can count on national leaders always acting in a logical, sensible manner. In fact, I don't think we can even count on them having access to factual information to make those rational decisions. If that was the case, Putin should have realized a long time ago that he cannot win this war, and that he should have looked for a ceasefire when the tides started to turn.

It is the unpredictability among the likes of Putin, Kim, or Ali Khamenei that makes me worried. In that regard, at least Emperor Xi is easier to predict.

[whitev70r]

I see this heading to a real shitty situation where the West supports Ukraine, China (and others) support Russia. Western companies that manufacture military artillery will not want the war to stop as this is a bottomless well of government contracts. Then you will have nefarious bastards that just want to add fuel to the war to keep it going endlessly.

If it hasn't gotten to this point already.

[EvoFire]

I see China just testing waters with words and minor back channel efforts but never actually committing to anything officially. They've basically ridden the fence through the last year and I don't see that changing. They do still have to deal with their internal issues with covid first and real estate problems second. I don't see a proxy war winning them any favours with the public unless it's another way for the gov't to dump money into the economy to prop it up.