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Old 08-23-2023, 12:43 PM   #1226
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Until his death can be confirmed, I wouldn't consider him dead just yet...
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You can't make this shit up.....

Putin just couldn't wait. I figured Prigozhin wouldn't live past the end of the year, I didn't expect him to not make it through summer.
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Old 08-23-2023, 02:36 PM   #1228
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Until his death can be confirmed, I wouldn't consider him dead just yet...
I agree. Prigozhin has enough money that he can set up this fake death. It was in his best interest to vanish himself before Putin could do it to him.
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:42 PM   #1229
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Whether he's dead or not, it was pretty much guaranteed he was going to "disappear" in some way or another.

9 other people were apparently on the plane, I think he's dead as dirt.
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Old 08-23-2023, 07:16 PM   #1230
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Lol, he ain't dead.
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Old 08-23-2023, 08:12 PM   #1231
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You can't make this shit up.....

Putin just couldn't wait. I figured Prigozhin wouldn't live past the end of the year, I didn't expect him to not make it through summer.
I didn’t expect him to make it out of Belarus. This is wayyyy too long already
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Old 08-24-2023, 12:20 PM   #1232
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In a few years, they're going to make a movie out of this.
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Wha? Why ? The man who couldn’t do jack shit ? The man who limp dicked when he could have marched on Putin and stopped this idiot ?

The man who probably got tortured so bad and so unrecognizable that they claimed he died in a plane accident ?

Fuck this guy. At least go down swinging.
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Lol.. hobz.. you are not more hardcore than Prigozhin.

Appreciate the chuckle though
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Old 08-24-2023, 01:51 PM   #1235
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Im for sure not, but he should have went all the way. This last minute stoppage because he fears for the safety of fellow Russians is so weak sauce.

They probably tortured this fucker for weeks if not months. Can’t imagine the shit this dude probably went through before they officially claimed that he died in a “plane crash”
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Old 08-25-2023, 10:35 AM   #1236
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His body has apparently been identified (missing a finger) along with some of the other Wagner leaders that died on the plane with him.
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Old 08-25-2023, 01:18 PM   #1237
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Im for sure not, but he should have went all the way. This last minute stoppage because he fears for the safety of fellow Russians is so weak sauce.

They probably tortured this fucker for weeks if not months. Can’t imagine the shit this dude probably went through before they officially claimed that he died in a “plane crash”
Dunno why he turned around, he was a dead man anyway, might as well have kept going.
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Putin probably threatened to kill his family.
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you'd think he would have already known that putin would do that though right? i think anyone that works with putin should be well aware that in the event that you become his enemy nothing is off limits.
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I know hey ... if he kept the protest all the way to Moscow ... he might have died a martyr. But now, he's a dot ... nothing ... in the history of Russia.
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Old 08-25-2023, 04:38 PM   #1241
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Lol.. hobz.. you are not more hardcore than Prigozhin.

Appreciate the chuckle though
Butt, butt, he's from Van Tech..............
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I know hey ... if he kept the protest all the way to Moscow ... he might have died a martyr. But now, he's a dot ... nothing ... in the history of Russia.
I think the choice was be a martyr and have his family and family's family tortured including kids being tortured for decades, or just surrender himself covertly.
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Old 08-25-2023, 08:45 PM   #1243
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None of that makes sense, if you're going to try and do what he attempted how the hell are you not expecting Putin to threaten to fuck with your family?
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Who knows. He could've moved his family to somewhere he thought they would be safe and then Putin may have disclosed their location. It's all speculation, but it had to be worth it to bail so there aren't that many logical possibilities.
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Why any sane human being would go anywhere in a a plane or car or even have a coffee with this dude after what transpired is beyond me.
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Lots of downplaying from Russia's side in terms of damage, but multiple reports have said it's more than just a little damage.

Do we know if Ukraine actually meant to target the dry docks? Or was it just collateral damage?
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Lots of downplaying from Russia's side in terms of damage, but multiple reports have said it's more than just a little damage.

Do we know if Ukraine actually meant to target the dry docks? Or was it just collateral damage?
We don't "know" it as in they don't come out and confirm stuff like this, but yes this was 99% an intentional targeted attack. Hit the boats while they are in dry dock and defenses are low
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I'm terribly sad and upset about this war, shocked that it is still going on and lasted this long. I sincerely wish it would end.

But the longer it lasts, the more I feel there are nefarious forces trying to keep it going from the Western side as so much money is poured into artillery, missiles, tanks, bombs, and machinery is constantly sent to Ukraine. Somebody or some people from the West is profiting greatly from this and it would be to these people's advantage that the war goes on longer.
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I'm terribly sad and upset about this war, shocked that it is still going on and lasted this long. I sincerely wish it would end.

But the longer it lasts, the more I feel there are nefarious forces trying to keep it going from the Western side as so much money is poured into artillery, missiles, tanks, bombs, and machinery is constantly sent to Ukraine. Somebody or some people from the West is profiting greatly from this and it would be to these people's advantage that the war goes on longer.
What could the Western side do to not "keep it going"? You think they have the ability to end the war, but are choosing not to?
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