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whitev70r 11-18-2024 04:32 PM

So Biden reversed his initial decision, Ukraine is permitted to use US long range missiles to attack Russia. Biden must have said, 'Eff it', let Trump clean up the mess, he said he can end the war in 24 hrs ... let Ukraine bombed the hell out of Putin'.

SkinnyPupp 11-18-2024 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9155120)
So Biden reversed his initial decision, Ukraine is permitted to use US long range missiles to attack Russia. Biden must have said, 'Eff it', let Trump clean up the mess, he said he can end the war in 24 hrs ... let Ukraine bombed the hell out of Putin'.

It's one exception for specific targets in Kursk that were otherwise not allowed due to the rules. Still ballistic missiles only, still not cruise missiles.

It's still a big change in policy, but it's not like they can just blast Russia non stop starting today

Here's a map showing the targets they could theoretically hit with these missiles, but again, only specific targets in Kursk are allowed with this change. (also as you can see, they can't reach Moscow)

https://i.redd.it/3zo30y1uen1e1.jpeg

Traum 11-18-2024 07:22 PM

Russia has been kind of expecting something like this for a while now, so anything that is really valuable enough to be protected would already have been moved out of range of the ATACMS.

Dbone 11-20-2024 02:00 PM

Storm Shadow/Scalp brings the pain. They are not just hitting Russia with ATACMS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...kes_in_russia/

Apparently this place had command bunkers. Fingers crossed they bagged some of the command staff. That was a lot of expensive ordinance.

View from the air:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1gvvbfj/ukrainian_storm_shadow_strikes_in_marino_kursk/

SkinnyPupp 11-20-2024 02:13 PM

UK giving them permission to launch cruise missiles into Russia. It seems they want to see if they can get things done before Trump comes in and hands the country over to Putin.

Hondaracer 11-20-2024 02:45 PM

Oh yea this is going to turn out swimmingly.

How long before cruise missles start flying into Russia that Russia just says fuck it and starts flatting cities in Ukraine?

SkinnyPupp 11-20-2024 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9155470)
Oh yea this is going to turn out swimmingly.

How long before cruise missles start flying into Russia that Russia just says fuck it and starts flatting cities in Ukraine?

Hi, welcome to 2022

JDMDreams 11-20-2024 11:08 PM

Does anyone honestly care about Ukraine anymore? We broke and can't afford them. And the Ukrainian women who came already wants to go back home cuz we suck. I don't see no free Ukraine no more, barely any free Palestine women except a few unemployed people who protest on the willingdon bridge during work hours.

Dbone 11-21-2024 05:17 AM

I do.

We're not broke, and the West can easily win without breaking a sweat or losing a single life. Letting it go would cost us way way more in the long run.

68style 11-21-2024 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9155514)
Does anyone honestly care about Ukraine anymore? We broke and can't afford them. And the Ukrainian women who came already wants to go back home cuz we suck. I don't see no free Ukraine no more, barely any free Palestine women except a few unemployed people who protest on the willingdon bridge during work hours.

Imagine living your life every single day based entirely on assumptions you make only from what you see directly around you and assuming that's all there is to it.

JDMDreams 11-21-2024 06:47 AM

Isn't that how Trump won?:lawl:

Hondaracer 11-21-2024 06:59 AM

People care when they see this thread pop up, that’s about it

Traum 11-21-2024 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9155514)
Does anyone honestly care about Ukraine anymore? We broke and can't afford them. And the Ukrainian women who came already wants to go back home cuz we suck. I don't see no free Ukraine no more, barely any free Palestine women except a few unemployed people who protest on the willingdon bridge during work hours.

I continue to follow the developments, and I'd say everything seems to be up in flux with Ukraine atm.

Canada has never been a major player in the war outside of welcoming quite a lot Ukrainian refugees into the country.

Biden is making a last ditch effort to help Ukraine with the easing of the ATACMS restrictions, and the UK is following suit. On the other hand, Trump is a massive wildcard in how things will play out, and nobody knows how things will play out until things start playing out.

Germany, the biggest supporter to Ukraine after the US, is caught up in an internal mess right now. The coalition gov has been toppled, and the Chancellor made political move to contact Putin that seems to have largely backfired on him in Germany. The likely winners for the next coalition gov seem to be supportive of Ukraine, but again, the uncertainty is there until the dust settles, and there is no telling how far the next German gov would be willing to support Ukraine.

Within Canada, I feel like the Ukrainian refugees are having mixed feelings about their continual stay in Canada. It is not easy to live in Canada for a lot of reasons, esp when the cost of living is high. There is no question that some are very grateful to be here, and plan on continuing to stay, either for the short or the long term. On the other hand, some are finding it too difficult to stay here, or feel like they have been away from their home and family for too long.

Being in Vancouver, it is not that easy to get a feel for those Ukrainian sentiments bcos we don't have nearly as large a Ukrainian population as Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. But unsurprisingly, support in those provinces seem to remain strong.

Badhobz 11-21-2024 09:38 AM

Of course support should remain strong. Fuck Putin and fuck this pointless invasion. But honestly I got a feeling they will just concede the currently held Russian territory and turn it into crimea 2.0. This won’t be over even after the cease fire is signed but at least it’ll give both sides to recover a bit.

Russia is hurting internally from the war economy too. Peasants there aren’t very happy with their standard of living or seeing their boys die fighting basically their brother. The whole thing is horseshit.

whitev70r 11-21-2024 01:16 PM

Putin just upped the game with ICBM's ...

JDMDreams 11-21-2024 02:23 PM

Just a thought, we can follow the north Koreans, send the new immigrants and illegals to fight for Canada to show their loyalty, if they survive and win we fast track citizenship.


??? Profit solves or housing problem and we can make Ukraine great again. :considered:

SkinnyPupp 11-21-2024 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9155614)
Just a thought, we can follow the north Koreans, send the new immigrants and illegals to fight for Canada to show their loyalty, if they survive and win we fast track citizenship.


??? Profit solves or housing problem and we can make Ukraine great again. :considered:

You are a clown

JDMDreams 11-21-2024 03:42 PM

Desperate times calls for desperate measures, they had like what 3 years to deal with this? Even within the first 6 months they said it was already impossible for them to win.

Hondaracer 11-21-2024 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9155614)
Just a thought, we can follow the north Koreans, send the new immigrants and illegals to fight for Canada to show their loyalty, if they survive and win we fast track citizenship.


??? Profit solves or housing problem and we can make Ukraine great again. :considered:

That already happens with every wealthy western nation, private military contractors.

SkinnyPupp 11-21-2024 04:29 PM

Ukrainian refugees are women and children and seniors. And you want to send them back to fight in a war they were fleeing from? Are you actually insane?

JDMDreams 11-21-2024 06:04 PM

I'm talking more about the buddy guys at diploma mills or the Mexicans on tourist visas that works in construction

blkgsr 11-22-2024 06:45 AM

the Latinos that work in construction are a VALUED part of the work force.

all the fake school people can fuck off

SkinnyPupp 12-08-2024 12:21 AM

Assad overthrown in Syria

I post it here because an Assad loss is a Russia loss

whitev70r 12-08-2024 06:34 AM

^ I know that Assad was a terrible tyrant but I did some initial reading about the Syrian rebels who overthrew him and they are Islamist militants associated with Al-Quaeda! That country is effed. Is this the case of one tyrant being replaced with another?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ani-syria-hts/

supafamous 12-08-2024 07:24 AM

https://i.imgur.com/PoZyYCq.jpeg


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