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TOS'd 07-19-2022 03:05 PM

Doesn't have the big wing like in the release pictures either.

Badhobz 07-19-2022 03:15 PM

^thats installed afterwards at the WWL depot. They do the actual PDI

https://www.walleniuswilhelmsen.com/...utm_medium=gmb


trollface 07-19-2022 03:18 PM

Why is that a thing?

Badhobz 07-19-2022 03:28 PM

because it lowers overall damage claims and costs for the auto manufacturer to have the final "delicate" or regional parts done at their destination. In canada case, we need DLR's WWL installs all of those, or activates them, depending on make or model.

The dealer only really rips off the white sheet and detail the car. Thats the extent of their PDI. Most of the hard work is done at the vehicle depots thats right next to the offramp ports.

TOS'd 07-19-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070328)
^thats installed afterwards at the WWL depot. They do the actual PDI

https://www.walleniuswilhelmsen.com/...utm_medium=gmb

There are actually two sizes of the spoiler that appear on the circuit edition demo/promo cars. The demo cars (hotlaps, influencer test drives, etc.) appear to have the low profile one while the car show/promo ones on display have the large one. Just some general observations, but production Circuit edition should have the large one anyways.

trollface 07-19-2022 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070331)
because it lowers overall damage claims and costs for the auto manufacturer to have the final "delicate" or regional parts done at their destination. In canada case, we need DLR's WWL installs all of those, or activates them, depending on make or model.

The dealer only really rips off the white sheet and detail the car. Thats the extent of their PDI. Most of the hard work is done at the vehicle depots thats right next to the offramp ports.

Oh that's interesting.

So besides wings, i'm guessing things like skirts and nice wheels too?

Badhobz 07-19-2022 03:43 PM

yeah they add packages that you ordered. Usually this happens on more mass produced cars like the ratrollas / camrys / Suv's etc. higher end cars comes pretty much complete with little to no PDI required.

Thus if you dont want the average WWL worker (who gets paid less than 50k a year) ripping apart your brand new car, either order base, or buy something a bit more bespoke. Im talking imports off course, domestic is the same thing but it's done at rail ramps next to the factory

LOGISTICS !!!! fun

trollface 07-19-2022 04:11 PM

SO THIS IS WHERE THEY CUT THE SUNROOFS?

TOS'd 07-19-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070334)
yeah they add packages that you ordered. Usually this happens on more mass produced cars like the ratrollas / camrys / Suv's etc. higher end cars comes pretty much complete with little to no PDI required.

Thus if you dont want the average WWL worker (who gets paid less than 50k a year) ripping apart your brand new car, either order base, or buy something a bit more bespoke. Im talking imports off course, domestic is the same thing but it's done at rail ramps next to the factory

LOGISTICS !!!! fun

Is this why the model decal on the trunk of my last new vehicle was crooked??

Badhobz 07-19-2022 08:57 PM

Yes! A lot of your fit and finish on imported vehicles can be directly attributed to these PDI guys.

p.s. i dont actually work in this business. i work for the ports, but ive toured their facilities a few times


BIC_BAWS 07-19-2022 10:06 PM

Well that explains why the CTR has the fit and finish of a Tesla lol

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Badhobz 07-20-2022 06:33 AM

I recall the majority of the crap they do are interior related.

programming the GPS, filing fluids, enabling infotainment, floor mat install, etc

68style 07-20-2022 07:33 AM

And yet you're paying the dealer $2,000 for PDI in Canada... and another $400-600 in paperwork fees.

We get so worked on those fees in Canada too... like for a GR86 in USA the freight+PDI fee is $1,025 USD... in Canada it's $1,820 CAD... getting taken for an extra $500 above currency exchange for the same service.

underscore 07-20-2022 08:37 AM

The big wing from the promo stuff isn't going to be on any of the production cars, at least not yet. My guess is it'll show up on another special edition later on.

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Originally Posted by trollface (Post 9070326)
Did anyone ever get a MSRP on this thing?

Nope, it's the one thing everyone is waiting on atm lol.

Badhobz 07-20-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9070365)
And yet you're paying the dealer $2,000 for PDI in Canada... and another $400-600 in paperwork fees.

We get so worked on those fees in Canada too... like for a GR86 in USA the freight+PDI fee is $1,025 USD... in Canada it's $1,820 CAD... getting taken for an extra $500 above currency exchange for the same service.

because of shipping volume. USA takes 10x more additional vehicle imports than Canada. the more you ship, the cheaper it is per car.

68style 07-20-2022 11:18 AM

But it’s the same thing across the board on cars made in North America or even Canada :(

Badhobz 07-20-2022 11:21 AM

oh yeah thats straight up robbery. I saw that too when i was leasing my green ratrolla built in Kentucky had the same freight & PDI costs as a 4runner (at that time was built in japan).

They said its to make it easier for consumers but its straight profits in their pockets.

white rocket 07-21-2022 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9070370)
Nope, it's the one thing everyone is waiting on atm lol.

Toyota waiting for Honda to release FL5 CTR pricing. Playing the "you first" game perhaps.

Kilinim 07-21-2022 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070363)
I recall the majority of the crap they do are interior related.

programming the GPS, filing fluids, enabling infotainment, floor mat install, etc

Not true. They also do exterior add-ons (wheels/tires, tpms, battery charging, side mirrors, alignments, heated seats).

Kilinim 07-22-2022 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070334)
yeah they add packages that you ordered. Usually this happens on more mass produced cars like the ratrollas / camrys / Suv's etc. higher end cars comes pretty much complete with little to no PDI required.

Thus if you dont want the average WWL worker (who gets paid less than 50k a year) ripping apart your brand new car, either order base, or buy something a bit more bespoke. Im talking imports off course, domestic is the same thing but it's done at rail ramps next to the factory

LOGISTICS !!!! fun

Not entirely true. WWL workers get paid pretty well tbh ($28-40/hour). Base or top of the line, they're all getting ridden.

Gumby 07-22-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kilinim (Post 9070601)
Not true. They also do exterior add-ons (wheels/tires, tpms, battery charging, side mirrors, alignments, heated seats).

Agreed - I read that for BMWs, any M-performance parts that you order as part of your new car will be installed at the port.

Badhobz 07-22-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kilinim (Post 9070628)
Not entirely true. WWL workers get paid pretty well tbh ($28-40/hour). Base or top of the line, they're all getting ridden.

Not that bad then. I saw a posting for their manager job and they were only offering 50-60k. I thought their techs were even worse than that.

Appreciate the insight. It’s a pretty neat industry but it seems not too lucrative vs other port industries.

JDMDreams 07-22-2022 11:00 AM

^^ Rs hook up for port jobs? Plz

Kilinim 07-22-2022 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070633)
Not that bad then. I saw a posting for their manager job and they were only offering 50-60k. I thought their techs were even worse than that.

Appreciate the insight. It’s a pretty neat industry but it seems not too lucrative vs other port industries.

Management is another monster. They're severely underpaid and shit on constantly. It's suffocating being on that side.

Kilinim 07-22-2022 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9070633)
Not that bad then. I saw a posting for their manager job and they were only offering 50-60k. I thought their techs were even worse than that.

Appreciate the insight. It’s a pretty neat industry but it seems not too lucrative vs other port industries.

Definitely not the most lucrative port side, but still lucrative in its own right.


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