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Kerrs father was killed in Beirut by Islamic terrorists? Not exactly a comparable..
Why is it not comparable to children killed by domestic terrorists?
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When I say out of touch, when you’re worth 10’s of millions of dollars, sure someone like him can be a voice because he has a platform. However it’s not like him or anyone else of his stature would ever have to send his kids to a school where something like this would happen
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Even ignoring that and if his kids are at some ultra secure school they still go to the grocery store and church like everyone else. Unless you live in a compound like in South Africa but who would want to live like that?
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These shootings in the United States are a far more complex issue than simply gun lobbyists and left/right politics. They have major issues as a society that stem from an ingrained culture of violence, culture of ignorance, low education, mass proliferation of firearms, and an exponentially growing mental health crisis. To make matters worse there is outright bureaucratic negligence when it comes to Gov policy that allows dangerous individuals to continuously walk through Grand Canyon sized cracks in public safety.
All states have their own unique laws and in each state you have all the different branches of the military, individual state and municipal law enforcement, health authorities, and offices for the various alphabet agencies and organizations. Multiply that by 50 and know there's no way for them to all talk to each other and centrally flag all the people who shouldn't have access to firearms for criminal or health reasons... and then disseminate that information to ALL firearms dealers nationwide! The background checks are a joke in most US states (if they even have them) and are often easy to skirt. That's why almost all of these mass shooters were already "known to police" or "known to X authority" prior to them popping off but nothing was done to stop them. The fact that these revelations come out postmortem every time is fucking disgusting and that blood pools at the feet of all politicians on all sides of the isles both state and federal. They're up to their knees in it. They have been taught the lesson over and over and over and done NOTHING tangible since 1999.
What kind of 18 year old blows away his own grandmother then decides to go in to an elementary school and shoot random children? It's just fucking sick.
Everything you have said is true, but at some point you need to start somewhere.
Right now the USA has shown that they're not even willing to make even the smallest of steps to tackle the problem. It's really sad.
I just think in general, on a personal level, don’t really care what celebrities or sports personalities have to say when they dabble into the political realm. Nothing against him just in general I find most people to be incredibly insincere
I get what you're saying, there are a lot of influencers that just want the clout, but Kerr seemed pretty genuine.
He was using his platform to plead his case. Seems like his messaged reached more people than most would.
Why would you not want a celebrity on your side to help push your agenda/ideas. Seems like that would be an advantage for any issue.
It's a double-edged sword tho... I doubt Trump would have ever become President if it wasn't for the whole "celebrity" angle... same for Dr. Oz running in a state he doesn't even live in... and why people like The Rock are even in conversation about being a future one.............
It’s all the same shit with celebs. Everyone loves the rock he’s the fun wrestling guy! Yet he posts pics working on Colabs with Bezos and other people that the general public consider pure trash.
Down deep every celebrity at the top steps over people and on people to get there. There are very few out there that can take the morale high ground on any issue without being considered a hypocrite. Kerr actually seems like he is one of the “ok” guys given his reputation as a coach and how he was portrayed in that Jordan doc etc. but for me, I don’t need to hear a Celebs opinion on anything, I’m good.
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He has every right to speak his mind. As a father, as a citizen, and as someone who obviously cares about the violence in his country. Especially as someone who’s speaking without hypocrisy.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Another heartfelt plea ... Stupid US Senate ... so I heard this more than once. A bi-partisan bill was passed by the House for basic background check before gun purchase but stalled for over a year in the Senate. So lots of anger towards the Senators.
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Fucking scumbag piece of shit morons. I feel so bad for Americans that have an ounce of sense having to share a space with so many absolute garbage humans.
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Grief can put people in a dark, dark place. Hard to get out of it without some sort of damage. What got me through the loss of my wife was something my daughter said to me. "I already lost one parent, you're all I have left. Please be there for me.................."
My wife died from cancer, this person lost his loved one due to some senseless murder. A choice someone made to end a life and affect those around each of those victims. No place in hell is good enough for the shooter. The shooter's family is probably going through some tough times. How did this guy get to where he is/was. What went wrong with his upbringing? Anyway, very tragic. How do you go about consoling these people?
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Before having kids, I knew these were very sad events but couldn’t relate. Now that I have two children, these school shootings hit differently. Imagine dropping your kids off at school or daycare knowing that some random might decide to shoot everyone because he/she had a bad day.
Arming teachers make zero sense. Imagine dropping your kids off knowing every grown up carry a gun. Also, what would a pistol do when these shooters carry a rifle??
Another issue is protocols and procedures. As stupid as it might sound, you can't just run into a situation Rambo style. You are trained to follow all the protocols... set up a perimeter, call the big shots in, wait for intelligence, etc...
Jesus fucking christ, their cops are too incompetent to deal with a situation like this, and they want to arm Teachers?
The states are soo fucked up right now but "if" i was living down there and the only 2 options were for the teacher of my kids to armed or not. I would picked them to be armed. I already trust my kids to be taken care of and taught by teachers 8hrs a day 5 days a week. The teacher is the last line of defence for my kids staying safe. Thats if i was living in the US though. Thankgod i dont.
The states are soo fucked up right now but "if" i was living down there and the only 2 options were for the teacher of my kids to armed or not. I would picked them to be armed. I already trust my kids to be taken care of and taught by teachers 8hrs a day 5 days a week. The teacher is the last line of defence for my kids staying safe. Thats if i was living in the US though. Thankgod i dont.
The police have a hard time dealing with an active shooter but you think a math teacher will be able to take down someone with ar 15?
The NRA is pushing arming staff because it means more gun sales and more money for the gun companies. Next, they will be wanting to arm students.
You also have the whole problem with storing guns at school. Only a matter of time before a student steals a gun from a teacher.
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Before having kids, I knew these were very sad events but couldn’t relate. Now that I have two children, these school shootings hit differently. Imagine dropping your kids off at school or daycare knowing that some random might decide to shoot everyone because he/she had a bad day.
Arming teachers make zero sense. Imagine dropping your kids off knowing every grown up carry a gun. Also, what would a pistol do when these shooters carry a rifle??
Holy shit. People need to stop watching action movies where some regular joe becomes some superhero marksman saving the day.
I mean fuck, the POLICE, who are trained and paid to do the job couldn't even get their shit together in this case.
Armed teachers are more to hurt an innocent person than ever "stop a bad guy"
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