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Old 08-02-2022, 10:52 PM   #101
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^ Haha, Hyundai is great, as you can tell by my signature, I actually owned 2 Hyundais in my life, both bought new. Funny enough I actually do keep up with Hyundai news even before the job haha...

The Toyota / Honda comment was just poking fun. Personally I think Toyota is super saturated, though the cars do sell themselves, but the amount of sales they have per shift is also pretty up there. Honda is similar to Toyota, but all in all, I would say Honda's lineup is the weakest between Hyundai, Toyota and Honda. They doubled down on small displacement turbos. I am sure CRVs and Civics are still probably the best selling car/SUV if not the 2nd best in the country. But their lack/very small selection of hybrid/plug-in seems to put them in the back foot. There are only so many GR86, Supra, Taco, 4 Runner, Si and Type-Rs that I can sell lol. Or the holy grail, sienna Hybrid, I think Revscene members are getting to that age... yes...

I think Hyundai is an agressive brand that is still hungry for market share. Though it might not persuade the older moms and pops, brand perception is still very real, especially in Richmond.

But the value per dollar is still largely there, and their designs are bold and out there (not exactly a home run everytime). At least the upper execs seems to be open to ideas. Also not having a mature "brand identy" yet gives them lots of options and keeps the door open.
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Old 08-03-2022, 07:46 AM   #102
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Good on your for taking the leap. Not many ppl have the balls to do that.
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Thread delivers. Congrats on the follow through, hope it works out for you! Also sign me up for the 6m 1yr 2yr update. Think this thread needs to be bumped annually like the Xmas Lobster thread at every anniversary with an update lololol.
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Yeah, I agree Hyundai is pretty solid compared to Toyota and Honda these days. Irrelevant back then imo. I think the Veloster N has been discontinued for a few months already. The states have them for like $33 - 40K USD atm ranging from 3,000 to 20,000miles.
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Congrats and good luck on the new job dark0821! on another note yesterday after work i was stuck in a traffic jam so i was looking at houses to my right and i see this pikachu prius and miata in the driveway lol so i now know where you live
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seems like the thread came to a positive outcome / end so now i can say i imagine the interview for the sales job is going to be the scene from wolf of wallstreet...

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Congrats! I've never shopped for a Hyundai before but I've read a lot about poor dealership / sales experiences online. People complain about their sales team treating their products like it's a Rolls Royce. I'm sure you'll be different!
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Off topic but what is the difference between Hyundai and Kia ? Their pricing is very similar. Their platforms are often shared. Why would I buy one or the other ? I’m very confused as to what their marketing angle is for each brand when they completely overlap.
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I've wondered the same as well. To me it's like Toyota vs. Lexus but with Kia and Hyundai, what's the real difference besides Genesis?
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CONGRATS to dark0821 it's not often you see someone do much more than whine about their situation!! Hoping for the best for you!

As for Kia/Hyundai, why not style the same car 2 ways for appeal... a lot of people like how one looks vs the other...

There are some strange crossovers that don't directly match though... ie: the Kia Stinger has no Hyundai equivalent, it's equivalent is a Genesis product.
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Hyundai owns about a third of Kia. At one point they owned 51%, but have since divested.

They're not technically the same, they are entirely separate entities, but they share parts/platforms.

Think of it almost kind of like Renault (previously) owning majority of Nissan. The same just isn't felt in NA because we don't see Renaults.
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You have to build rapport with the customer, otherwise you are just another sales guy. You have to give the customer a reason to buy from you.

Best advice I can give you is to not over think for the customer.

They are responsible for their own financial decision and you are there to help them into a new vehicle due to whatever reason they have.

Don't think why they need a new car when their few year old car still works fine. Don't think that the payment is trash because they decides to lump negative equity into the new payment plan.

Oh and make sure you get to work early since the gravel lot beside the insurance place fills up quick.
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Well I hope you're a better sales person or just decent person to talk with than the current new Asian guy at OpenRoad Hyundai Richmond. I went there just the past weekend. I was curious about getting something more dailyable but still fun (Kona N) and was really just browsing. The sales guy just repeated "what's your timeline on buying" and "what type of car are you looking for?" over and over again. Well, if I knew what I wanted, I sure as hell wouldn't be lurking around at dealerships lmao.

Anyway, I'm sure the guy at Hyundai was just trying to prospect me as a potential client and weed out tire kickers. Terrible execution though. His product knowledge was awful but at least he didn't try to BS me. As a consumer, I absolutely despised that whole experience.

Meanwhile, Trevor from OpenRoad Lexus and Marvin from GoAuto (prev. Cowell) VW were great to work with. Maybe a 718 Cayman or a MK8 Golf R will be in my future - getting really tired of poor build quality and mediocre dealership sales experiences.

I digress. I hope you get to sell a lot of Genesis products! They look like awesome cars!
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I had decent experience at Hyundai Richmond, they let me drive the Veloster N. Dude had a Golf R and let me drive away on my own. Downside was there's no discount so I ended up buying at Maple Ridge.
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Meanwhile, Trevor from OpenRoad Lexus and Marvin from GoAuto (prev. Cowell) VW were great to work with. Maybe a 718 Cayman or a MK8 Golf R will be in my future - getting really tired of poor build quality and mediocre dealership sales experiences.

I digress. I hope you get to sell a lot of Genesis products! They look like awesome cars!
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If you're tired of poor build quality, I would prob avoid covid cars. You know everyone is skimping and cost cutting where possible to get units out.

The auto industry is not exactly known of its integrity and honesty.
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Meanwhile, Trevor from OpenRoad Lexus and Marvin from GoAuto (prev. Cowell) VW were great to work with. Maybe a 718 Cayman or a MK8 Golf R will be in my future - getting really tired of poor build quality and mediocre dealership sales experiences.
I spoke to a sales person at PCV recently, and he was telling me that brand new custom orders for the Cayman / Boxster / 911 is taking anywhere between 12 - 24 months. So if you have a brand new Porsche itch that you want to scratch, take the wait time into consideration.
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