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Old 08-04-2022, 10:06 AM   #126
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Wish you best of luck in the car industry. Interested in response when quitting old job as well
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So...you actually followed up with an email to make it official, right?

You almost gave him too much info... you owe your boss nothing, but a cordial goodbye.
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The typical, "i was gonna give u a raise" and "i was thinking about promoting u" after u give ur notice...... bunch of bs imo
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Yah that's some major guilt tripping... sounds almost like an abusive relationship

"I'm leaving you because you said we would get married by x date and we haven't"
"That's too bad... I was just shopping for a ring the other day..."

hahaha good riddance
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The typical, "i was gonna give u a raise" and "i was thinking about promoting u" after u give ur notice...... bunch of bs imo
This is also my mindset... not a big fan of having to search for other opportunities before your current employer even considers giving you a raise or promoting you

Like if you were gonna promote me or give me a raise, why did it it take me having to give my resignation letter to get it?
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Being a manager is tough. You can post on a message board about how flawed you think that person's response is, however, it is not easy to see people leave.

You don't know if at any moment, when someone walks into your office and closes the door whether they are telling you about a death, a miscarriage, cancer, sexual harassment in the workplace, that someone didn't wash their hands in the bathroom earlier, if they need a new keyboard, or alternatively, if they are quitting. I have experienced all of these situations. I don't think anything prepares you for someone you care about and being a part of your team leaving.

Reviews typically do happen on a calender basis. And any manager would be remiss not to try and mention future plans or actions that they saw for an associate. If you are worth it, they will try to save the situation. If you suck, believe me, I want to make sure you send me the resignation through e-mail or provide it to me on paper so I can make sure this jackpot is real.

Anyways, OP - congrats! I spent about 7 years in that building when it was Richmond Toyota. It looks so different after the Hyundai renovation. I think Hyundai is a great brand that is due to gain market share vs Toyota. Their offerings are more progressive and I think you will benefit from it. I believe that store has a new GM as well. New leadership is a great opportunity for you to be on a level playing ground vs your peers.

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thanks for sharing man, tbh, the nervousness, the conversation you had, etc etc, trying to almost soften the blow of you leaving - i think it speaks to your character.

as a manager, i appreciate it. you can't really 'teach' this in someone... you have it or you don't.

don't feel guilty leaving, you're doing it for you and your family. if someone can't understand/respect that, then you prob should have left 'em sooner.

good luck, let me know when you're established, if i save up, i may need the hookups for an ionq5

though i can't afford one right now
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Congrat on the new gig!

Just want to add a few things beyond all the great comments already here.

I also took a risk for a career change when I turned 30... choosing to follow my dream of owning my own business vs. pursuing a stable high-paying job even though I hated it to guts because of the super long hours (60hr+/wk)

Looking back, if I had to make that decision again, I would stick with my decision without blinking an eye.

Some suggestions on what could have done better looking back:

1. Never stop investing in yourself.
The new job "honeymoon" would eventually pass. One day, you'd eventually get to a place where you are either questioning the decision, or be at the same point again where you think there's no future in this.

The only way to get over that is to never stop investing in yourself. My rule of thumb is to take 30min to an hour every single day to do things that would make yourself better tomorrow than today. Be it reading, exercising, pampering yourself (sales need to look sharp) or practicing.

By constantly improving yourself is what would set you apart from your peers and prep you for something greater.

2. Never settle
You just took the first big leap in work life. I want you to remember this feeling and why you decided to take the leap at this moment. You didn't want to settle your life for that deadend job. This is the motivation that pushed you forward and would continue to push you in the future.

Good luck and have fun in your new position!
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Carrera GT weekend
Both cars reminds me of the glory F1 days, and modern enough that with regular proper maintenance, will be super reliable.

Ofc I want the F1, F40, F50, zonda, but honeslty those cars are a) not very street friendly, and b) will defn leave you stranded even with good maintenance.....

Somewhat dreaming, but can own if i sell the house LOL
The 992 GT3 Touring, it literally ticked all the correct boxes as the ultimate 911 for me...

The goal for retirement if they stop frikken apprieciating (who am I kidding) 997.2 GT3, what a car... i told my wife that if we bought the car using equity a decade ago when the interest was still stupid low, i would have owned the car for free, and maybe even sold at a profit at this point....

Love the RS variants for sure, but as I grew older, I no longer want the big wang. And honestly, 99% street driving, the premium to get in a RS is not worth it. I mean... I am poor after all. Though I do believe a RS will always be desireable, so it will hold on to its value...

Immediate goal? Lets say 996 or 997 gen manual 911 within the next 5 to 6 years, would be a pretty awesome 40 yrs old present? XD

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IMS problem is overrated. Bore scoring - just do your homework and get it inspected or rebuild the engine. Get one and enjoy. Life is too short.
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I asked the wife about the 911.

Me: well for the same money as the LC I can get a Porsche 911 CS4
Her: do that. Who would spend this kinda money on a fucking Lexus ?
Me : fuck you bitch I hate you
Her: trololololo I steal all your money anyways
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This thread is relevant to my interests.
I too am thinking about getting into a sales job, albeit, also at a small paycut. My reasoning is from the same place. I come home very stressed and unhappy often. I’m very passionate about what I do, and very proud of it and certainly won’t feel the same after the change, however, I’m inundated with stress all day, every day, as it’s so volatile with staffing, profit margins, etc.
I don’t think sales will be a breeze, but I’d be stepping into accounts that exist and trying to grow them, which I think won’t be all that difficult being that it’s products I know lots about, and most often am quite passionate about.
Not being the boss will be very difficult for me, however, will take a massive chunk of stress off.
Lots of good advice so far in this thread. I’m not the sole breadwinner, as me and my wife make approximately the same, however I’d be willing to take less at the possibility of being more pleasant to be around for my wife and daughter. That said, being that I run things, it’s also on me that work is stressful to a point. I need to decide if I have the skill and tools at my disposal to make it easier.
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Have you guys considered "stocks" and "lemonade stands" like all the 16 year old car youtubers?
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im just thinking about our parents and how pretty much all of them did shit ass jobs they hated but i never heard a peep about job satisfaction growing up. Its a job, you do it, you get paid and you go home. Classic example; my mom ironed shirts for 5-10 cents a piece growing up. in a non a/c sweat shop close to hastings st. through that kind of insanity she put food on the table and paid the mortgage until she was able to find better work.

Nowadays i cant even find enough longshoremen to work on a friday/saturday and im paying these guys 6 figures a year to work for 4hours a day (gantry operators). Everyone is completely obsessed with quality of life and work life balance, but then they come and bitch that they are poor.
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The main difference is when my folks worked shit jobs, they could still afford a house and car, raise a family. You do the same now, and you're in abject poverty.

The normal standard of living line was much lower and much easier to achieve. I think a lot of ppl have come to the conclusion that busting your ass and doing the bare minimum will net you the same short term result, so why bother.

When houses are un-obtainable, I think ppl have started to gravitate towards instant gratification via material purchases. This is fueled by Social media as it has made it extremely easy to see other ppl's highlights. I've never seen that many people with 25k Rolexes on the bus in HK.

Give me that dopamine injection.

100k used to some mythical number that means you're doing pretty well. Today, 100k single income means you are qualified for a 1bed room apartment next to Highway.

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^youre not wrong, and to be honest i think it makes sense to focus on personal happiness as oppose to purely fulfilling obligations. but maybe that needle is swinging a bit too far for the kids nowadays.

whats wrong with a 1 bedroom anyways? people just need to adjust their perceptions
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That’s the difference. You work a shit job and get to buy a house, a new car every 5 years, vacation to Hawaii every year, have ZERO emails, texts, etc to answer when you go home from your 9-5 that’s a very different lifestyle than being expected to answer whenever someone needs it, knowing full well you can’t move into a bigger home unless mom and dad give you hundreds of grand towards it.
Fuck the desire to bust ass to scrape by. If it’s just going to go OK financially, why expect someone to commit their existence to it.
It’s not about being softer, it’s about being smarter.
That said, as long as I get sundays off for cars and coffee, get me the training to be your gantry operator for 6 figures and a 4 day work week and I’m there.
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Both cars reminds me of the glory F1 days, and modern enough that with regular proper maintenance, will be super reliable.

Ofc I want the F1, F40, F50, zonda, but honeslty those cars are a) not very street friendly, and b) will defn leave you stranded even with good maintenance.....

Somewhat dreaming, but can own if i sell the house LOL
The 992 GT3 Touring, it literally ticked all the correct boxes as the ultimate 911 for me...

The goal for retirement if they stop frikken apprieciating (who am I kidding) 997.2 GT3, what a car... i told my wife that if we bought the car using equity a decade ago when the interest was still stupid low, i would have owned the car for free, and maybe even sold at a profit at this point....

Love the RS variants for sure, but as I grew older, I no longer want the big wang. And honestly, 99% street driving, the premium to get in a RS is not worth it. I mean... I am poor after all. Though I do believe a RS will always be desireable, so it will hold on to its value...

Immediate goal? Lets say 996 or 997 gen manual 911 within the next 5 to 6 years, would be a pretty awesome 40 yrs old present? XD

Totally okay to gamble on IMS and bore scoring looool
Even a regular 997.1 or .2 S you would have driven for free considering the stupidity of the last 2 years, don't need a GT3.
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