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a lot of people, like my wife, wouldn't spend 100k+ on a brand that doesn't have the clout to carry that 100k price tag.
people dont care if it performs like a dream, sounds like god singing, or rev's to 8600rpm. its a chevy... a 100k chevy. at 100k it better be at least german, or near exotic.
What can you get that's near exotic for 100k these days?
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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For a fair comparison I'd say brand new. It looks like a base 911 starts at $115k. The Emira starts at $120k. The Giulia Quadrifoglio starts at $95k but it's a sedan. Meanwhile the regular Corvette starts at $75k. And anything really exotic is just stupid these days.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
A loaded bucktooth M3 is well into 100 territory out the door.
A base Cayman/Boxster is 100 out the door with a few options and nowhere near Corvette performance
A Zupra is getting close to 100, but nowhere near Corvette performance.
It's an exercise I've done a few times. What do I do if I got rid of the M3. There's nothing really at a price point I can afford that would replace my car.
But yeah, I can't get over how it looks. It's so frumpy at all angles. The Z06 looks a little like the NSX from the front, but then the NSX still looks better.
I dont really care for the clout or the 100K price tag.
Lets be real, the Z06 is 150k, its like $120K + fees and taxes, even if you can get at MSRP, out the door will be 150K, still cheaper than the R35 though =D
And I think 120K is "cheap" for what you are getting, very good bang for the buck sort to speak.
2 knocks against it to be honest if I do become rich enough to get one...
the looks, I have to disagree and say I even mind the front end as well, the back end no one likes, but even the front doesnt do anything for me....
the lack for the manual option (I know I know)... I actually drive manual in 9 to 5 traffic from Metrotown to Richmond Auto Mall, I don't mind it at all. I have an auto family car, for my toy, it has to be manual. I am not chasing the 0-62, nor the 5 seconds on track... to me it must have the "full experience" and manual transmission with good pedals placements is a huge part of it.
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Let's get on the same page on Canadian MSRP cause I see a lot of numbers thrown around:
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Pricing opens at $128,198 for the base-level 1LZ coupe; $138,198 for the 2LZ coupe; and $144,198 for the 3LZ coupe. Convertible versions of all three trims are also available for an additional $9,000 each, and all prices include the $2,298 destination freight charge.
GM is also offering a number of packages with the Z06, including a Carbon Aero Package that adds a Z07 splitter, rockers, dive planes up front, and a spoiler out back, all finished in either Visible Carbon Fibre for $12,065; or Carbon Flash-Painted for $9,765.
The Z07 Performance Package ($10,344) builds on the Carbon Aero Package with FE7 suspension, Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes, track-ready Michelin Pilot Cup 2R ZP tires, and underbody strakes to improve aerodynamics. And finally there’s the option for carbon-fibre wheels that cut a total of 18.6 kg (41 lbs) from the car’s weight and can be ordered in Visible Carbon Fibre for $13,794; or Carbon Flash-Painted for $11,494.
By our calculations, that gives the most elevated version of the 2023 Z06 a price of $172,930 excluding taxes.
For comparison (base config MSRP):
GT4: ~$122k
911S: ~$140k
911GTS: ~$158k
GT3: ~$190k (this price is merely a suggestion)
R8: ~$178k
GT-R: ~$130k
The Z06 is an absolute bargain but it sure is an ugly bargain.
Any car in this price range has performance that vastly exceeds my current and potential talent level on a track so if I could only spend this kind of money for one car I'd get the one that also makes me feel like a million bucks on local roads as well and the Corvette is just too damn ugly both inside and out. I think I'd almost be embarrassed to be seen with it in some cases (The C7 is much more attractive). The reliability aspect on track probably doesn't ever affect me though - I have no ability to push a car like that till it blows.
FWIW, last week I put a deposit down for a Boxster GTS 4.0 so I've made my call on how to spend close to this kind of money (now I have to actually find the money if I get an allocation).
Congrats! Any particular reason you chose a Boxster over the Cayman?
How much was the deposit and when are they expected to deliver?
Congrats! Any particular reason you chose a Boxster over the Cayman?
How much was the deposit and when are they expected to deliver?
Wife and I both prefer drop tops - I actually LOVE drop tops - and I'm ok if that limits my track day options. I found visibility of the Boxster top up was very good (it was terrible in my NC Miata) so that wasn't a concern.
Deposit is $2500 (refundable) and only secures me a spot on the list but doesn't secure me a promise of an allocation. Sales guy said I'm likely looking at 18 months minimum which is fine by me as I wasn't going to buy until 2024-2025 (won't really have the money for at least another year) but with production wrapping up soon and the waitlist being this long I felt I had to at least be on the list.
If a slot opens up earlier I'll figure something out - I could lease/finance it but I really want to pay in cash for the whole thing.
If a slot opens up earlier I'll figure something out - I could lease/finance it but I really want to pay in cash for the whole thing.
Depending on what the interest rates are and how the federal luxury car tax gets applied, it might be viable to lease the car to start, and only buy it out once the residual value drops below the $100k or $125k mark. Bear in mind that the (dealership) PST rate on cars in the $57k - $125k range is 10%, while the PST rate jumps to 15% for cars in the $125k - $150k range, and 20% for cars in the $150k+ category.
Before the federal luxury car tax came into play, I did some hypothetical calculations on a $75k-ish lease. If you rig the numbers right, in theory at least, the tax savings from buying out the car with the lowered residual value can make it cheaper than the total amount of interest you pay on the lease. And then there is the extra benefit of you being able to defer the lump sum payment for however long you lease the car before buying it out.
Depending on what the interest rates are and how the federal luxury car tax gets applied, it might be viable to lease the car to start, and only buy it out once the residual value drops below the $100k or $125k mark. Bear in mind that the (dealership) PST rate on cars in the $57k - $125k range is 10%, while the PST rate jumps to 15% for cars in the $125k - $150k range, and 20% for cars in the $150k+ category.
Before the federal luxury car tax came into play, I did some hypothetical calculations on a $75k-ish lease. If you rig the numbers right, in theory at least, the tax savings from buying out the car with the lowered residual value can make it cheaper than the total amount of interest you pay on the lease. And then there is the extra benefit of you being able to defer the lump sum payment for however long you lease the car before buying it out.
Me explaining all of this to my wife:
The luxury tax sure hits hard above $125k - my generously equipped proposed build's MSRP came out to $130k and there was $40k in taxes on top of that. My real build will be a lot less - I think I'd land, in current dollars, around $118k or so which would knock the taxes down by about $15-18k I think but if I do go over leasing might be a nice way to get around the hit about $125k. Thanks for the tip!
So honestly, are any of these kind of high powered cars even fun to drive outside of the track?
I've never driven anything close to the power of cars like these, but I've always imagined they would be too fast for the streets to enjoy. So you either buy them for track or for status...?
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