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Old 12-28-2022, 06:23 PM   #76
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Why would he get margin called?
I don't follow enough politics / stonks / news
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Investors borrow money to invest in a particular stock.

If the stock hits a certain low point the lenders will call the investors to pay up cash in order to hold that stock. Which means they'll have to sell the stock or find another way to pay off the lender to hold the position.

Because they borrowed money to buy the stock they can't hold the stock in hopes of it going back up.
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Musk bought Tesla on margin?
I sure hope it was when it was 20$ a share or less.

I guess if your a billionaire, the next step is to hit trillionaire, and the only way to do it is to margin your company and then pump dogicoins, rockets, and brain implants in monkeys
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Lawl, hilarious to watch this idiot flush away 44billion and take down twitter / Tesla / himself at the same time.

If I was driving a Tesla I better get my list of apologies ready when people start turning on musk in droves. Kinda like supporting / enjoying Harvey Weinstein movies…
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Old 12-30-2022, 09:03 AM   #83
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do you think at this point tesla is too mainstream for the torches and pitchforks to turn on the brand?
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^youre right, its probably too mainstream to be impacted by that idiot, but nevertheless the relation to Musk is tanking the stock and im sure its impacting the brand somewhat.

Although i found it funny that Tesla always labeled itself as a "luxury" automaker. I sat in a few and they for sure don't have anything luxurious about them. Seems more utilitarian and minimalist than luxury.
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I've sat in 5 different Model 3's for uber, and every single one of them had the most annoying rattle/creak from the seat belt area.

Like I get it, it's fast, and the tech is definitely cool. But anyone who thinks any Tesla is "luxury" is out to lunch. Just because it costs as much as a BMW, doesn't mean it is equivalent.
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No doubt any average non car person will associate Tesla with luxury, they've done a great job at marketing and branding.
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can it be considered "luxury" but just really crappy factory QC with said defects? or are the finishes and luxury creature comforts not there?

never owned luxury as i'm a peasant
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Imo my 2011 G37 has higher quality finishings than new model 3’s.

The g37 was probably 15-20% more MSRP initially than a model 3 but it’s also 10+ years older than the ones I’ve been in. Also the sound deadening in the G37 feels luxurious compared to model 3 which has a lot of road noise
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It's an apples-to-oranges comparison to compare road noise in ICE vs EV though. The only reason EV seems to have a lot of road noise is because ICE is so noisy (that it masks everything else).

That said, the TM3's interior feels cheap to me. The interior of my old man's FC2 has noticeably nicer materials and better fit and finish than the TM3. And honestly speaking, the fit and finish of that Civic wasn't all that great.
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how do the fit & finish of the other non-luxury EV's fare against tesla?
VW, Toyota/Subaru, Hyundai/Kia, etc?
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I don't know if this is the case anymore and only annecdotal but throughout the pandemic, I read that a lot of delivery of Teslas to customers were accepted by customers in poor condition pertaining to fit and finish. It was a "take it or leave it" situation.

Now, if the question was regarding use of premium materials and superb craftsmanship, I'm afraid I don't know. I drive a fake Scion for all I know.
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I rented a Model S years ago and it just felt like a Camry to me. The fake leather was a turn off. Should've used real leather or just cloth. Don't use something in between.

Luxury should make things as easy as possible for you and your passengers. For instance, opening the roof should be one single motion. Reach up and push a button... easy... not trying to navigate a menu on the screen to find the option to open the roof... WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING.
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i guess its very subjective but honestly i just dont feel that the interior is very luxurious. Choice of materials is meh, finishing are meh, and the build quality is something that i can put together myself and probably do a better job.
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i rate my own workmenship at a level.. i mean we cant all be level of perfection here.
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Every Tesla owner I know is not a “car person”

So most are oblivious to panel gaps, finishes, etc
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Teslas are definitely not luxury cars. Do people classify them as luxury cars because of how they are priced?
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^ It is mainly the price, but also the performance. For the longest time straight line speed outside of sports cars is a measure of how nice your car is as a Rav4 has right around 200hp and a X3/Q5 starts at 250hp. It goes fast therefore it's nice. Also big screen is nice.

No I don't think Teslas are luxury. You just paid for a big battery and that it would go fast.
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Are Teslas really that expensive? I thought the whole point of them was that they were fast and pretty reliable fully electric cars, but affordable compared to the big manufacturers. Why are people buying Teslas if they're not cheap?
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