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Originally Posted by Manic!  So when you are backing out you only look at your hud. The end game is self driving and the computer is part of that system. | I like waffles, therefore I must hate pancakes.
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12-31-2022, 07:05 PM
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Apple should be unveiling their "secret" self driving EV one of these days.
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12-31-2022, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by N.V.M. Apple should be unveiling their "secret" self driving EV one of these days. | It has been delayed to 2026. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-delayed-2026/
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12-31-2022, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! The quality of the ford era jags was crap. | So what's your point? You keep making these odd comparisons to other vehicles that aren't equivalent. Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic! It runs more than just one screen. Also you need 2 sticks to run dual channel. Who makes 4 gig sticks anymore? Running steam games required no extra hardware. | Are you saying they're using regular computer memory in a car? That still doesn't explain why it needs all that RAM or why it has a GPU that can run a game, other than for a gimmick. You can run a UI and stream a couple cameras with a potato.
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#130 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by underscore So what's your point? You keep making these odd comparisons to other vehicles that aren't equivalent.
Are you saying they're using regular computer memory in a car? That still doesn't explain why it needs all that RAM or why it has a GPU that can run a game, other than for a gimmick. You can run a UI and stream a couple cameras with a potato. | People are saying Tesla is not a luxury car because of fit and finish. But other luxury brands have also had fit and finish problems.
Tesla Uses a AMD APU that uses DDR4 ram. It's probably using embedded ram and not desktop dimms but it's DDR4 just like the computer you use. What type of potato tech would you like Tesla to use instead of the AMD CPU that cost them probably costs them a few hundred bux at most. They where using Intel Atom processors before.
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12-31-2022, 09:47 PM
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I mean if I'm buying a car supposedly for the tech I'd rather they spend their R&D time on actual development and not gimmicks but that's just me. Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic! People are saying Tesla is not a luxury car because of fit and finish. But other luxury brands have also had fit and finish problems | You mentioned one period of time for one brand that pitches itself as luxury, but sure. The rest of them the rest of the time haven't got anywhere near Tesla's quality issues. They still have terrible build quality and still aren't a luxury brand despite their luxury pricing.
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12-31-2022, 10:56 PM
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#132 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by underscore I mean if I'm buying a car supposedly for the tech I'd rather they spend their R&D time on actual development and not gimmicks but that's just me.
You mentioned one period of time for one brand that pitches itself as luxury, but sure. The rest of them the rest of the time haven't got anywhere near Tesla's quality issues. They still have terrible build quality and still aren't a luxury brand despite their luxury pricing. | Tesla has the most advanced car on the market. No one comes close.
My family has 4 Tesla's no one has had fit and finish problems.
According to JD power Tesla ranks low but Audi, Volo, and Volkswagen are lower. 
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12-31-2022, 11:08 PM
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Being able to stream Steam video games is nothing. It took no development, it took no resources. They came to an agreement with Valve, and added it to the software.
All it does is play a video of the game you are playing, and send the inputs back and forth - no different from doing it on your phone or whatever. TVs have had software that does this for years.
It's just a gimmick and nobody is going to use it other than to see that they can do it. May be a few fringe cases like for kids or whatever, but they will most likely prefer to play on their own phone.
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01-01-2023, 12:19 AM
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#134 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Being able to stream Steam video games is nothing. It took no development, it took no resources. They came to an agreement with Valve, and added it to the software.
All it does is play a video of the game you are playing, and send the inputs back and forth - no different from doing it on your phone or whatever. TVs have had software that does this for years.
It's just a gimmick and nobody is going to use it other than to see that they can do it. May be a few fringe cases like for kids or whatever, but they will most likely prefer to play on their own phone. |
Not true. Games are downloaded and stored locally from what I understand. Tesla has a 80 gig HD and you can add an external drive. I add I tb to my Dad's for sentry mode. https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/11...mes-in-a-tesla
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01-01-2023, 12:24 AM
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Downloading a game local to play online is way less technologically advanced than streaming a game in real time like Xbox GamePass Live. The input latency itself is insane to think about making it zero lag.
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01-01-2023, 12:39 AM
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#136 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Tesla fan bois cling to the weirdest shit..
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01-01-2023, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! | OK if anything that is even more simple
Either way it's nothing... The car has a PC, so it can run Steam, and games that can run on Steam can run on it.
btw what GPU does the Tesla have that is able to run Cyberpunk at a playable frame rate?
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01-01-2023, 04:48 AM
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#138 | | "They call me Bowser...RawR!"
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I'm confused why they would choose x86 to run a mission critical OS instead of ARM or a purpose built ASIC.
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01-01-2023, 06:52 AM
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^ I don't find them cheap at all. People bought them because of government subsidies and initially, not a whole lot of choices. That and it was the newest fangle thing. I think there are more and more options now.
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01-01-2023, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Tesla fan bois cling to the weirdest shit.. | Hahah so true. But I guess you have to defend your expensive purchase or else you are left with the reality that you bought a gimmicky ass car that’s poorly built, and full of beta software that they can change, remove, adjust on a whim.
They used to come with LiDAR right ? Now they rely solely on shit cameras that don’t work if there’s heavy rain or snow. Or it’s too dark. Or it’s too bright. Etc etc. steering yoke ? Fuck you elon. Self driving isn’t realistic, requires way too much babysitting, summon mode is horse crap, fails more than it works.
The only feature that I think is good is having the built in dash cam. Which I can replicate with a 30 dollar can from Amazon. What other feature is there that’s noteworthy ?
I don’t know why people defend these insane bullshit things.
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#141 | | "They call me Bowser...RawR!"
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If you think Tesla fans are whack, go check out the Hyperloop crowd..
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01-01-2023, 09:48 AM
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Don't know much about Tesla's other than the fact that owners/drivers behave like bmw 3 series drivers of yester years.
Never signaling or giving thanks if you stop to let them through or out, tailgating your ass in the right lane when the left is completely wide open.
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01-01-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon I'm confused why they would choose x86 to run a mission critical OS instead of ARM or a purpose built ASIC. | They also have an arm chip in the car it's used for FSD. It was designed in house. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/tesla_(...pany)/fsd_chip Quote:
Originally Posted by !LittleDragon If you think Tesla fans are whack, go check out the Hyperloop crowd.. | Hyperloop is BS. But if you want an EV Tesla makes the best one by far.
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01-01-2023, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! People are saying Tesla is not a luxury car because of fit and finish. But other luxury brands have also had fit and finish problems.
Tesla Uses a AMD APU that uses DDR4 ram. It's probably using embedded ram and not desktop dimms but it's DDR4 just like the computer you use. What type of potato tech would you like Tesla to use instead of the AMD CPU that cost them probably costs them a few hundred bux at most. They where using Intel Atom processors before. | No one has fit and finish problems like Tesla does. I see them on the road and the misaligned panels are very obvious, especially on the trunks. Tons of anecdotal evidence that something like half the cars have issues on delivery. That's not the only thing that outlines what a luxury car is, NVH and suspension tuning is one huge sore power
I am saying that they didn't put their money in tech, but the other companies are quickly catching up. Tesla does have some very interest design choices and I say that in a good way. When Munro tore down a recent Model Y, the heatpump design for cabin climate control is described as ingenius and a super efficient design.
The AMD thing. Kudos to them to go for it and making it work as it gives them a ton of processing power, but there's a reason why traditionally x86 or PC-esque processors aren't used. They aren't robust enough for the bumps and bruises a car would take, and the operating envelope is just not wide enough (-40C to 60C easy, and that's just one metric) for operation in a car.
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Originally Posted by EvoFire
The AMD thing. Kudos to them to go for it and making it work as it gives them a ton of processing power, but there's a reason why traditionally x86 or PC-esque processors aren't used. They aren't robust enough for the bumps and bruises a car would take, and the operating envelope is just not wide enough (-40C to 60C easy, and that's just one metric) for operation in a car.
| It depends on how the CPU is packaged. A Panasonic tough book laptop can run at temperatures as low as -28 C and when not running it can survive -58 C.
Audi Also uses Intel CPU's in some of it's cars. https://newsroom.intel.com/news/repo...ology-audi-a8/
Some planes also use Intel CPU's https://fdsavionics.com/product/solid-state-cpu/
Tesla is not just garbing off the shelf parts and installing them in a car. Tons of testing by them and the manufacture has been done. As cars get more complex more CPU power will be required.
More info from Intel and AMD. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-overview.html https://www.amd.com/en/products/embe...tive-solutions
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01-01-2023, 12:15 PM
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All I really cared to learn in this thread is that Buick is number 1 
2023 is my favourite year so far.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Tesla fan bois cling to the weirdest shit.. | That's literally the only thing that came to mind watching this back and forth 
WTF.
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01-01-2023, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GS8 All I really cared to learn in this thread is that Buick is number 1
2023 is my favourite year so far. | And Dodge is 2nd?!
What world do we now live in.
How is Chrysler at the bottom of the list and Dodge is 2nd?
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Perhaps some of you folks should take this battle on to Twitter so we can get back on track to the purpose of this thread. 
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