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You're right... because we have not yet figured out how to tackle a problem at home, we should absolutely turn a blind eye to other problems elsewhere in the world. After all, nothing that happens anywhere globally could be more important than 12 blocks of the downtown Eastside.
As of a quick Google, over 10x as many Palestinians, and 5x as many Israelis have died in 2 weeks than all of 2022 in the DTES. And many are children, most are civilians, and presumably few are drug addicted.
Just STFU already.
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Lol yea because Canada of all places is in the position to play rescue for a conflict they don’t even understand. Canada can’t even sort its own basic problems out yet we’re suppose to deal with incredibly intricate problems like these?
Just throw more money at it, that will surely accomplish peace in the Middle East.
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Canada sometimes Reminds me of those reality shows where a couple is in financial trouble and get help and the host/person is shocked at their expenses which includes a sizeable regular donation when they’re in the verge of financial ruin
I think it's also worth highlighting that not only are the Palestinians being squeezed geographically, but because the Israelis literally control every part of their country, they are on a path back to the stone age from a financial and systemic standpoint with massive unemployment, unreliable food/water/power/fuel, etc.
I will be the first to say I did not have nearly the appreciation for the conditions that the Palestinians have lived in for the last years until this conflict gave me a reason to read and learn a bit more - it's pretty tough to see this and you can definitely see how this kind of world they live in gives rise to extremists because it probably feels pretty "we're on a one way ticket to nothing, so what have we got to lose?"
Which is of course, a terrible recipe for desperate, poorly thought out actions. It's awful, and 100% unacceptable for Hamas to murder innocent Israeli civillians and they are rightly condemned for it. But I also feel strongly that this is being used as a launchpad for the Israelis to take equally or more despicable actions that they've "wanted" to do for years, and this provides them cover to do. And that is what we all need to stand up against.
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This is 100% correct. Make no mistake, the current Israeli government is easily the most radical government they've had in place in quite a long time now. They have been waiting for this opportunity to level Gaza, and this is the perfect excuse for it.
You have to also listen to the way these Israeli officials describe Palestinians as "animals", I very much pay attention to the words used by these people. It's all very coded in a meticulous way.
Going back to the topic of land, what's so fascinating about Israel is that its government is primarily run and occupied by Ashkenazi Jews. These people aren't even Semites like the Palestinians, or "true" Israelites from that very region. Israelis and Palestinians are both Semitic people, they are essentially cousins to each other. One would wonder if peace would be better achieved if such radicals weren't running their country.
Just take a look at the current cabinet, it is a sea of European-faced Jews, they are the people that run the country, and that is a fact. If you look at it through that lens it becomes all the more clear the genocidal tendencies these people carry.
Israel is a major arms dealer and has a history of "testing" its newfound developed weaponry on the Palestinians before selling them on the world market.
If you read about this stuff you truly see the direct parallels between how the Ashkenazi were treated by the German Nazis (even down to the experimentation of weapons) to how these same Ashkenazi treat the Palestinians.
^ often the tables are turned. The Jews who were oppressed at one time becomes the oppressor in the next generation.
This is about as big of a generalization as saying all Palestinians are terrorists.
Also, Jews aren't the oppressors, it's Israelis. And it's a big stretch to say all 9 million Israelis are "oppressing". To somehow equate the holocaust to this is ignorant at best.
Joe Biden is pissing me off. I'm shocked how much different a stance he's made on this whole issue as opposed to Obama's. He's showing his true neocon colors, it's almost as if nothing has changed since 9/11 with the US government's stance on this whole conflict, even to the behest of their own officials (many of which served in Obama's government).
Even State Department officials are stepping down due to him sending weapons to Israel with apparently more to follow (there is a huge inner battle going on between officials on these weapon commitments).
Why does Israel need more arms? They're already fighting a battle equivalent to me walking down the street to the nearest elementary school and picking a fist fight with a special needs student. It's fucking laughable.
It just shows more and more these old fuckers need to be voted out of government, whether Biden, Bibi, or any other of these crusty fucks making these foreign policy decisions.
Remember when everyone was saying Hamas isn’t Palestinians?
Well Netanyahu don’t give a fuck if Hezbolah represents Lebanon or not lol..
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Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a fresh warning to Hezbollah saying that if it goes to war with Israel “that would bring unimaginable devastation upon it and Lebanon.”
The U.N. says about 1.4 million of Gaza’s 2.3 million residents are now internally displaced, with almost 600,000 crowded into U.N. shelters.
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Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah met Wednesday with top Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad officials in their first reported meeting since the war started. Such a meeting could signal coordination between the groups, as Hezbollah officials warned Israel against launching a ground offensive in Gaza.
Israeli military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said Iran was helping Hamas, with intelligence and by “whipping up incitement against Israel across the world.” He said Iranian proxies were also operating against Israel from Iraq, Yemen and Lebanon.
Inb4 WW3 / 911 2.0
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The comparison between Hamas/Palestinians is not the same as Hezbollah/Lebanon. Pretty sure Netanyahu is saying devastation will be brought upon Lebanon as a country if Israel starts bombing the Hezbollah…
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Wiping out Hamas isn’t going to do shit. It’s just going to make the Islamic world which is growing substantially quicker than “western societies” fucking hateeeeeee Israel and their supporters.
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As always Mearsheimer lays it all out clear as day, first half Ukraine second half Israel
Fuck you america. The status quo of the post war era is dead.
Stop trying to police the world. Like this guy said, this whole Russia Ukraine war is because they pushed nato to Putins border.
Fuck you america. The status quo of the post war era is dead.
Stop trying to police the world. Like this guy said, this whole Russia Ukraine war is because they pushed nato to Putins border.
They’re our ally bro! They must be right
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Fuck you america. The status quo of the post war era is dead.
Stop trying to police the world. Like this guy said, this whole Russia Ukraine war is because they pushed nato to Putins border.
Yeah, how dare people democratically decide the course of their country, and that course is to distance themselves from a corrupt totalitarian regime and plot a course for a better future with closer ties to the west. Sure didn't work for Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Latvia, , Lithuania, Bulgaria, Estonia, etc... We should totally let Russia have a piece, how dare we let Russia be upset!
Mearshimer's argument is so dumb because it ignores the actual will of the people in those countries. There's a reason they're all distancing themselves from Russia....
Yeah, how dare people democratically decide the course of their country, and that course is to distance themselves from a corrupt totalitarian regime and plot a course for a better future with closer ties to the west. Sure didn't work for Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Latvia, , Lithuania, Bulgaria, Estonia, etc... We should totally let Russia have a piece, how dare we let Russia be upset!
Mearshimer's argument is so dumb because it ignores the actual will of the people in those countries. There's a reason they're all distancing themselves from Russia....
Not being in nato doesn’t mean they can’t be democratic or sovereign. I’m not sure why we shoved nato down the throats of these countries knowing full well it’s poking the angry ass Russian bear. Fuck Putin but also fuck this nato bullshit. This is exactly like the alliance systems of WWI. Going to entrap nations that have little or no interest in a European conflict.
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Mearshimer's argument is so dumb because it ignores the actual will of the people in those countries. There's a reason they're all distancing themselves from Russia....
It's not his argument he's just laying out the facts without all the propaganda from all sides, you just think the will of the people has a say in any of it, it never does, even in revolutions the powers that be push, encourage, manipulate the populace to their favour and it'll be a battle of sides to see who has the best manipulation skills and can control the most lemmings
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