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Hondaracer 10-09-2023 08:54 PM

Somewhat ironically, the UN issued this statement that Israel was breaking international law just a few weeks ago, as the “right wing” govt. with psycho Netanyahu have been forcibly pushing people out of Palestinian territory to create new Israeli settlements:

https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15424.doc.htm

From Reuters:

Quote:

The United States, Israel's key ally and a broker of statehood negotiations that have stalled since 2014, has repeatedly expressed its objection to Israel's ongoing settlement expansion.

According to the United Nations, some 700,000 settlers live in 279 settlements across the West Bank and East Jerusalem, up from 520,000 in 2012. More than 3 million Palestinians who live in the same area are subjected to Israeli military rule that some rights groups say amounts to apartheid.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...og-2023-07-13/

And now our “allies” are going to besiege a city of 2 million+ cutting off everything from water to power like it’s WW2 Stalingrad lol..

Oh for the days when we were giving standing ovations to Nazis.

SkinnyPupp 10-09-2023 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9111376)
As usual it will be the people making the calls that stay safe and everyone else that's in danger. I don't see stepping into a side of this conflict going well for anyone or any country, whatever side they hop on. The attack from Hamas is despicable, and the response from the Israelis will match it.
All in the name of competing sky daddies again. We really aren't as developed of a species as we think we are.
I'd really like canada to be taking the Switzerland approach to this conflict, as the grandstanding isn't going to positively affect anyone. I think our government really needed to learn a lesson from two weeks ago that it certainly hasn't. Maybe just shut the fuck up and keep it quiet unless you really intend to be a factor.

I agree except I think they intend to be a factor

sdubfid 10-10-2023 06:11 AM

If Canada is looking for a project there is plenty to fix in their own backyard. Drive through any city and anyone can see.

JDMDreams 10-10-2023 06:56 AM

I was just watching this on YouTube University yesterday and apparently the Hamas had a lot of help from Iran, there's no way this can pull off something this professional with this much resources, and catch Israel with their pants off basically, what about that iron dome, don't they have like the second best military behind US? And all of the US tech?

It's apparently something to do with Iran not wanting Saudi to sign some deal with Israel. Then all the Arab countries will have to agree with Israel since Saudis pretty much have the biggest influence as the top Arab country. :ahwow:

pastarocket 10-10-2023 08:16 AM

The first thing on my mind about this conflict is "Is Turd's Liberals gonna give even more taxpayer dollars to help an ally?"

Our federal government has given so much money, and weapons, weak as some of those firearms are, to help Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Turd better not give more of our tax payer dollars to help an ally. Furthermore, the news reports from last week are about the Liberals cutting a billion bucks in spending from our armed forces.

Money does not grow on trees despite what Turd thinks! :facepalm:

Support for Israel does not necessarily have to be financial support.
Canada cannot afford it!

68style 10-10-2023 08:25 AM

I'd agree that Israel does not need financial assistance in any way.

However, you need to stop bitching about Ukraine money... you think helping Ukraine fight off Russia is expensive? Think Putin is going to be happy if he takes Ukraine and go back to write his memoir? Try paying for stopping Russia (or Putin, rather) after he takes over ALL its neighbouring countries and starts in on Poland.

Money well spent at this juncture.

westopher 10-10-2023 08:33 AM

What we should be focusing on here is preventing spillover of this conflict from affecting Canadians here on Canadian soil, both Palestinian and Jewish, as there are plenty. The flames are ignited and there are plenty of people here ready to fan.

Hondaracer 10-10-2023 08:42 AM

In the next 10 years I wouldn’t doubt there is some kind of substantial home grown terrorist attack in Canada.

All these groups who we’ve brought here over the last decade have just been stewing and marginalized again and again and now they see these conflicts where Canadians opt to pick a side and go full in on it rather than even pretend to be neutral as westopher mentioned earlier. It just breeds contempt and hatred.

The Boston marathon bombings are perfect examples of this.

Badhobz 10-10-2023 08:47 AM

im surprised there isnt one already with how much inequality there is in our society.

Marginalized groups are gonna explode.

Id say it would be a gen z'er but those feckless little shits are too lazy to start any sort of grassroots terrorism

https://y.yarn.co/3b585327-0ce1-4968...fb7fa_text.gif

Hondaracer 10-10-2023 09:04 AM

Honestly despite what I say or may come off as I have no hate for anyone, do whatever you want

But when you invite a million + muslims to Canada in a short time frame and then turn around and openly support a regime flattening buildings full of muslims? Ehhh not such a great look

Infiniti 10-10-2023 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9111351)
You do know what it looks like when you go straight to that, right?

I'll take anti-shmematism for $2000 Alex.

blkgsr 10-10-2023 10:16 AM

If shit start popping off in canada (and other countries) it needs to be seen as full on terrorism and the full power of our juridical system come down on them. My fear is our government is so weak on this type of thing that they won't actually do much to squash it or lock people up. Deportation should be the result. You want to fight, go home and fight there.

blkgsr 10-10-2023 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9111410)
Honestly despite what I say or may come off as I have no hate for anyone, do whatever you want

But when you invite a million + muslims to Canada in a short time frame and then turn around and openly support a regime flattening buildings full of muslims? Ehhh not such a great look

i saw a video of a reporter at a protest with a bunch of Muslims (wasn't exactly sure what the protest was for) but either way the guy they spoke to basically said fuck all you white people and rest of Canada, bring in Sharia Law, you can't control us now we're going to take over.

That shit is a scary possibility when we just let everyone and anyone come in. They (of course not all before people jump down my throat) don't care about this country. They'll milk it for everything we'll give the and complain they want more in the process then try to turn this into a new middle east.

Canada is fucked.

westopher 10-10-2023 10:32 AM

That's getting worked up over nothing. There's 100x as many Christian nutjobs in canada that want the same shit but a different version.
I think being worried about some sort of violence related to something like that is reasonable, but whenever someone's like "they are trying to bring sharia law" to canada that's just ridiculous sensationalism. I'm not saying you are trying to play that angle, but I am saying seriously don't consider that as a realistic problem.

68style 10-10-2023 10:33 AM

Don't turn into a 'Murican so easily

Quote:

That shit is a scary possibility when we just let everyone and anyone come in. They (of course not all before people jump down my throat) don't care about this country. They'll milk it for everything we'll give the and complain they want more in the process then try to turn this into a new middle east.

Canada is fucked.
How is this in any way based on reality? Do you have some data to back up this audacious claim? It's fuckin HARD to come here unless you're already rich... I work just up the street from Immigration Canada and know at least 2 managers there, they spend almost all their time on CPIC and international databases screening people and corroborating their claims for refugees and otherwise.

Anyone and everyone... what a ridiculous thing to say lol... if that was even remotely true places like the Philippines or India would pack every plane on the planet full coming over here fast as they possibly could.

underscore 10-10-2023 10:45 AM

Per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Canada

Christianity (53.33%)
No religion (34.62%)
Islam (4.89%)
Hinduism (2.28%)
Sikhism (2.12%)
Buddhism (0.98%)
Judaism (0.92%)
Indigenous (0.22%)
Other faiths (0.62%)

There would need to be a looooooot more immigration before anyone would be in any kind of position to try to take over anything.

CivicBlues 10-10-2023 11:54 AM

Weren't a good portion of the Anti-SOGI protests made up of Muslim families? They're joining forces with the right-wing Christian nutjobs on this. I don't think Sharia law is a threat but we are actively seeing a movement towards more right-wing ideologies with the type of immigration we are receiving.

Badhobz 10-10-2023 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9111426)
Per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Canada

Christianity (53.33%)
No religion (34.62%)
Islam (4.89%)
Hinduism (2.28%)
Sikhism (2.12%)
Buddhism (0.98%)
Judaism (0.92%)
Indigenous (0.22%)
Other faiths (0.62%)

These are the wackjobs you need to look out for. All the assholes who almost kill me everyday in richmond are part of this cult

MarkyMark 10-10-2023 12:09 PM

Atheism is making some solid ground baby, gives me hope lol

CivicBlues 10-10-2023 12:11 PM

Honestly, with all the recent shit going down with the Indians and now Muslims/Jews again it sure is taking the heat off all of us Chinamen as of late :fuckthatshit:

blkgsr 10-10-2023 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9111432)
Weren't a good portion of the Anti-SOGI protests made up of Muslim families? They're joining forces with the right-wing Christian nutjobs on this. I don't think Sharia law is a threat but we are actively seeing a movement towards more right-wing ideologies with the type of immigration we are receiving.

This is exactly it.

I'm not saying Canada is going to Sharia Law, what I'm saying is SOME OF THE people coming here have that mind set and will cause problems in general.

GLOW 10-10-2023 12:18 PM

is the religion stat even relevant?

isn't it the fringe minority/few causing a majority of the problems though?

JDMDreams 10-10-2023 12:32 PM

The ball is rolling, nothing like some good old public executions

"Queen of Canada' cult threatens Sask. village with public executions"

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2270599235567

blkgsr 10-10-2023 02:07 PM

lock these fucking nut jobs up

where the fuck is the RCMP. the second you start with the letters and "execution" warnings your rights are gone. Fuck your freedom of speech.

SkinnyPupp 10-10-2023 02:08 PM

I'm not up to date on Canadian policy regarding refugees. For a long time they would only take in women and children from that part of the world (even throughout Trudeau's government) because of this very issue. Did that change in the last 5 years?


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