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Hondaracer 09-17-2024 03:17 PM

Bra.. it’s obviously about power and influence lol what else could it be?

Why do Kamala and Trump spend all their talking points about specific groups of people on Jews who make up 5% of the American population?

Power, money, influence, as much as people got their panties in a bunch early on in this thread, what else is it.

Hamas killed what, 1200 people that day of the raid? Now Israel has killed 50,000 and no one reports on that or cares? Lol

Follow da money

Also as you said, now you’ve got Israel operating in foreign countries going after targets which are dragging their “allies” closer and closer into these internal conflicts and no one bats an eye.

Badhobz 09-17-2024 04:36 PM

Yeah it’s pretty fucked up. Western narratives for the last 20 years has always been

Anti Muslim
Anti China
Anti Russia

If you fall within any of these 3 groups gg. Axis of evil

Hondaracer 09-17-2024 05:06 PM

When you look at how fucked up the US has left places over the last 100 years, you really question who the “bad guy” is

There’s so many world altering events that have happened over time that changed the world, ultimately for the worse, through western intervention

westopher 09-17-2024 05:30 PM

When was the last time the US really succeeded unanimously when it comes to military intervention? WW2?
I don't really know about the Korean War or what happened there other than MASH. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq were all objectively left more fucked than before by US troops on the ground, never mind the atrocities committed by US soldiers to citizens in all of those conflicts.

SkinnyPupp 09-17-2024 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9149432)
When was the last time the US really succeeded unanimously when it comes to military intervention? WW2?
I don't really know about the Korean War or what happened there other than MASH. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq were all objectively left more fucked than before by US troops on the ground, never mind the atrocities committed by US soldiers to citizens in all of those conflicts.

It depends on how acceptable it would be if most of the countries in Asia became Chinese colonies

JDMDreams 09-17-2024 05:41 PM

No Chinese colonies but ok for Indian colonies to exist? When they bombing Canada?

Badhobz 09-17-2024 05:42 PM

^ Wat ?!

EvoFire 09-17-2024 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9149432)
When was the last time the US really succeeded unanimously when it comes to military intervention? WW2?
I don't really know about the Korean War or what happened there other than MASH. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq were all objectively left more fucked than before by US troops on the ground, never mind the atrocities committed by US soldiers to citizens in all of those conflicts.

Desert Storm was a success?

They really had no business in Iraq. It was a manufactured war. And I agree Middle East is in no better place now than before.

I'd argue South Korea is better off because of US influence.

If they ever got involved in a war over Taiwan, there would be zero winners. Everyone loses.


I still have a hard time believing this one is real. It's a little out of the realm of my belief that a tiny little battery can do that much damage.

JDMDreams 09-17-2024 06:57 PM

They still haven't released the hostages, yet they still fire missiles into Israel + capture ships.

SkinnyPupp 09-17-2024 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9149437)
Desert Storm was a success?

They really had no business in Iraq. It was a manufactured war. And I agree Middle East is in no better place now than before.

I'd argue South Korea is better off because of US influence.

If they ever got involved in a war over Taiwan, there would be zero winners. Everyone loses.


I still have a hard time believing this one is real. It's a little out of the realm of my belief that a tiny little battery can do that much damage.

Everyone used to see Russia as a huge military power. The US and NATO have been able to destroy half their military power just by supplying Ukraine with expiring 90's weaponry, without even having to send troops. They're just starting to give them upgrades now.

Putin is sending his country back decades just by continuing the attack

SkinnyPupp 09-17-2024 09:09 PM

Insane

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Internati...ezbollah/story

noclue 09-17-2024 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9149437)
Desert Storm was a success?

They really had no business in Iraq. It was a manufactured war. And I agree Middle East is in no better place now than before.

I'd argue South Korea is better off because of US influence.

If they ever got involved in a war over Taiwan, there would be zero winners. Everyone loses.


I still have a hard time believing this one is real. It's a little out of the realm of my belief that a tiny little battery can do that much damage.

Ehh, the first one was to defend kuwait (and oil) the second one + afghanistan was the disaster. I wonder what a powerhouse the US would be today if they didn't incur massive amounts of debt from that war. Probably have free healthcare but gotta fund the war machine.

StylinRed 09-18-2024 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9149416)
I don't have skin in the game here, but how is Israel given runway to do this kind of stuff?

If Iran conducted this type of operation, the world would've considered this a terrorist attack, yet Israel can indiscriminately blow up thousands of pagers (without even knowing who is holding the pager, and is currently in presence with that individual)?

It's stuff like this that give credence to people being against Israel, they seem to always be the aggressors here, using their tech to beta test their latest and greatest murder machines on innocents.

The world does try to intervene time and again through in resolutions or even by force in rare occurrences, but big daddy USA always puts a stop to it

MG1 09-18-2024 06:37 AM

I don't follow what goes on in the Middle East. Death, destruction, whathaveyou............ such violence.

Gotta find something good in all of this, right?

https://www.instagram.com/hot_idf_girls/?hl=en

pastarocket 09-18-2024 07:09 AM

First it was pagers exploding. Then it is walkie-talkies exploding for Hezbollah members.

They should go old school and use carrier pigeons to communicate. :lawl:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...hnk/index.html

bcrdukes 09-18-2024 07:25 AM

That's insane and unfortunate. Children being a casualty of this is just awful.

To orchestrate an explosive device being planted in so many devices is wild.

Badhobz 09-18-2024 07:39 AM

this is why organized religion sucks. Its the root cause of so much human suffering throughout the ages

its funny how all these religions are based on principles of "peace"

unit 09-18-2024 07:42 AM

peace for me but not for thee

EvoFire 09-18-2024 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9149475)
First it was pagers exploding. Then it is walkie-talkies exploding for Hezbollah members.

They should go old school and use carrier pigeons to communicate. :lawl:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...hnk/index.html

That really boggles the mind. With pagers at least you can call them a connected device. Walkie-talkies aren't technically connected so it must be planted? And to have such widespread distribution is insane.

Hehe 09-18-2024 09:03 AM

I think we are witnessing the Muslim/Jewish version of the Crusades. :fuckthatshit:

mikemhg 09-18-2024 09:05 AM

Something really bothers me about what Israel did here. They're not in a literal war with Lebanon, this is pure terrorism.

This type of thing is so indiscriminate, no way to confirm who is in possession of these pagers, how can that person be legitimately deemed an enemy or someone worth killing in such a brutal way?

I say brutal by the way because a lot of these people ended up suffering perforated bowels/stomachs as a result of these explosions which is a wickedly cruel and slow way to injure/maim/kill a person.

Hondaracer 09-18-2024 09:08 AM

They already killed 10,000 Palestinian children, morals seem an afterthought

bcrdukes 09-18-2024 09:22 AM

I forgot about the world of pagers. Pagers, while they have their uses, seem so primitive in the world we live in with smartphones and all. Feels like I've taken the technology evolution for granted.

westopher 09-18-2024 09:24 AM

This absolutely secures the IDF and this entire operation being terrorism, if you didn't already know that before. The only difference between them and isis is that they aren't a threat to American soil.

JDMDreams 09-18-2024 09:38 AM

USA wants to sell weapons to Taiwan again, I wonder if those will blow up remotely too :joy:


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