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SkinnyPupp 10-11-2023 05:37 PM

whitev70r 10-11-2023 05:49 PM
^ fair statement. There are plenty of blame for both sides. And plenty of innocent people suffering on both sides.

Manic! 10-11-2023 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9111584)

But....the people that did the "interrogating", they were all kids! I mean no more than 25 y.o. and nearly all female. This was at the southern border along the red sea popular with tourists so I assume they deemed it lower risk. At Tel Aviv airport upon my departure I had my luggage unpacked by a more intimidating security officer but was very cordial was probably better trained.

I suspect there was some complacency with Gaza having been "abandoned" back in 2005 and surrounding a pretty sparsely populated area. And really, what else could they have done when they basically Zerg-rushed a random area of desert and sparsely populated small towns?

The world's most powerful country can't stop a bunch of Latin Americans from crossing their southern border, what chance does a nation of 9 million have against 2 million (400 million, really) who are actively and rabidly trying to kill them and being armed by Russia/Iran/Qatar, digging tunnels, flying drones, etc.
All young because they have mandatory military service. At 18 you have to do 32 months of service.


The North/South Korea boarder is 250 KM long and the German wall was 155 KM long.

Good write up of the timeline. Some waited 20 hours to be rescued.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html

Reports from Gaza boarder guards.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...t-hamas-attack

There was a military failure and I think Benjamin Netanyahu will pay the price.

inv4zn 10-11-2023 07:31 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comme..._in_harms_way/

To clarify, this may be old and not recent - but this is the fucked up reality over there.

JDMDreams 10-11-2023 07:38 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....de-report/amp/

Would bang bang pew pew :ifyouknow::notbad::megusta:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 9111588)
Hot blonde, Jewish chicks................... pics, please.

inv4zn 10-11-2023 11:11 PM
Really good video, also explains how the breach happened, supposedly.

https://youtu.be/j6xInxnbSW8?si=EI84QUKj9-xxqCsh

The7even 10-12-2023 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9111423)
That's getting worked up over nothing. There's 100x as many Christian nutjobs in canada that want the same shit but a different version.
I think being worried about some sort of violence related to something like that is reasonable, but whenever someone's like "they are trying to bring sharia law" to canada that's just ridiculous sensationalism. I'm not saying you are trying to play that angle, but I am saying seriously don't consider that as a realistic problem.
You're so brainwashed, you actually believe that Christians of today are as bad, if not worse, than Muslims when it comes to terrorism and violence? Are you this ignorant on purpose?

Smug liberal. You're just like that guy who got killed in NYC via an assault knife, ignorant to your surroundings and clueless.

If there were 100x as many Christian nut jobs in Canada you'd know it and you'd fear saying anything against them. Yet you aren't scared and there's a good reason for it; you're wrong and delusional.

inv4zn 10-12-2023 02:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The7even (Post 9111650)
You're so brainwashed, you actually believe that Christians of today are as bad, if not worse, than Muslims when it comes to terrorism and violence? Are you this ignorant on purpose?

Smug liberal. You're just like that guy who got killed in NYC via an assault knife, ignorant to your surroundings and clueless.

If there were 100x as many Christian nut jobs in Canada you'd know it and you'd fear saying anything against them. Yet you aren't scared and there's a good reason for it; you're wrong and delusional.
Ever the voice of reason and logic, you are. Although it's a tad ironic calling someone brainwashed, and then a smug liberal, lol.

If you had actually read Westopher's post, he was referring to Muslims declaring Sharia Law in Canada - and saying there are worse "Christians"; which is not wrong.

Just look at Evangelicals on a crusade against them gays. and abortion. and whatever they pick and choose from the bible to fit their fucked up narrative.

The fact that you went straight to Muslims=violence, really needs no further comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...65TQ.jpg&w=916

Badhobz 10-12-2023 04:04 AM
hey thats my kinda christmas!
look at how happy they all are

Manic! 10-12-2023 04:17 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middl...ng-claims-intl

Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack

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The Israeli government has not confirmed the specific claim that Hamas attackers cut off the heads of babies during their shock attack on Saturday, an Israeli official told CNN, contradicting a previous public statement by the Prime Minister’s office.

“There have been cases of Hamas militants carrying out beheadings and other ISIS-style atrocities. However, we cannot confirm if the victims were men or women, soldiers or civilians, adults or children,” the official said.

The explosive allegations that children had been decapitated at the kibbutz of Kfar Aza emerged Tuesday in Israeli media. Israel Defense Forces later described the scene as a “massacre” in a statement to CNN. Women, children toddlers and the elderly were “brutally butchered in an ISIS way of action,” the IDF said.

Tal Heinrich, a spokeswoman for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said on Wednesday that babies and toddlers had been found with their “heads decapitated” in Kfar Aza.

US President Joe Biden appeared to confirm that information. In a roundtable with Jewish community leaders on Wednesday, he said: “I have been doing this a long time, I never really thought that I would see… have confirmed pictures of terrorist beheading children.”

A US administration official later clarified Biden’s remarks, telling CNN that neither Biden nor his aides had seen pictures or had received confirmed reports of children or infants having been beheaded by Hamas. The official clarified that Biden was referring to public comments from media outlets and Israeli officials.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-...something-big/
Quote:
Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’
Cairo official says Israel focused on West Bank instead of Gaza; Egypt’s spy chief said to warn PM of ‘terrible operation,’ Netanyahu denies it
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047

Quote:
Israel was warned by Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas' deadly cross-border raid, a US congressional panel chairman has said.

House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee head Michael McCaul told reporters of the alleged warning.

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu described the reports as "absolutely false".

Israeli intelligence services are under scrutiny for their failure to prevent the deadliest attack by Palestinian militants in Israel's 75-year history.

"We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen," Mr McCaul told reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing on Wednesday for lawmakers about the Middle East crisis, according to AFP news agency.

"I don't want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given," the Texas Republican added. "I think the question was at what level."

westopher 10-12-2023 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The7even (Post 9111650)
You're so brainwashed, you actually believe that Christians of today are as bad, if not worse, than Muslims when it comes to terrorism and violence? Are you this ignorant on purpose?

Smug liberal. You're just like that guy who got killed in NYC via an assault knife, ignorant to your surroundings and clueless.

If there were 100x as many Christian nut jobs in Canada you'd know it and you'd fear saying anything against them. Yet you aren't scared and there's a good reason for it; you're wrong and delusional.
Are you illiterate on purpose?

Badhobz 10-12-2023 06:52 AM
i thought being a minority tranny cop would make you hate Christians since they are fundamentally opposed to your very being

not saying dem muslims like ya either, but still, i dont see why you would support one group vs another.

CivicBlues 10-12-2023 07:30 AM
Wait I thought the 7even was from Bosnia or something. Are you Serb or some kinda rabid ex-muslim?

pastarocket 10-12-2023 08:54 AM
-interesting article about the HAMAS strategy for creating their weapons supply:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/11/middl...-ml/index.html


Factories to produce weapons. Tunnels to smuggle military hardware from Iran.

Iran training HAMAS.

Wow, HAMAS even recycles sheet metal, pipes, etc. from buildings destroyed by Israeli bombings.

They're resourceful, that's for sure.

mikemhg 10-12-2023 12:19 PM
No fucking duh they can't confirm the beheading of babies. That story sounded like straight bullshit from the start. Were there maybe a few adult beheadings? Possible. Were some children shot during the assault? Also possible. Beheading a bunch of babies? HIGHLY doubt it. That doesn't even make logical sense if you think about it rationally for a second.

If you actually read on that initial report, NONE of it was substantiated, it all came from an unreliable Israeli paper as the source, and none of it was substantiated by anyone.

That's the problem in these conflicts nowadays, throw some bullshit out there (ala WMDs in Iraq, terrorists in Afghanistan) and run with that narrative.

They're doing the same shit by saying Iran coordinated this whole thing literally the next day after this all happened. Based on what proof, exactly?

I hate using this word but stay woke, don't let this US/Israeli propaganda encourage us into another 9/11 in the Middle East.

Hondaracer 10-12-2023 12:25 PM
Yea so hard to decipher all the BS etc.

Even that footage of all the soldiers flying those paragliders, like that shit was obviously all produced and distributed but then news agencies etc. run with that footage like some Israeli was filming them landing guns in hand. Your average person watches that and has zero clue that the footage obviously isn’t relevant

underscore 10-12-2023 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9111697)
That's the problem in these conflicts nowadays, throw some bullshit out there (ala WMDs in Iraq, terrorists in Afghanistan) and run with that narrative.
You don't even need that bold part, people do that with everything. By the time it's confirmed one way or another it's old news and nobody cares or bothers to talk about it.

“A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.” - Mark Twain

unit 10-12-2023 12:32 PM
for sure. so much western propaganda out there right now. anything you read from any articles including by canadian news sources should be taken with a grain of salt.

The7even 10-12-2023 12:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9111667)
Wait I thought the 7even was from Bosnia or something. Are you Serb or some kinda rabid ex-muslim?
Bosnia. And still Muslim. Just not retarded enough to believe that a bunch of Christians in the west who have the audacity to voice their grievances and take pictures with rifles because they value the 2nd amendment are more worrying than a bunch of uneducated fanatic, sexually suppressed goat fuckers willing to blow up civilians and murder indiscriminately.

I don't have to be rabid to hate evil and point out the hypocrisy of Muslims.

The7even 10-12-2023 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9111661)
i thought being a minority tranny cop would make you hate Christians since they are fundamentally opposed to your very being

not saying dem muslims like ya either, but still, i dont see why you would support one group vs another.
And when did I say that I support either side in this eternal conflict?

As a tranny cop minority I still rather live with these so called hateful Christians that oppose my very being. I'm not getting thrown off rooftops or getting hung, am I?

Great68 10-12-2023 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9111697)
No fucking duh they can't confirm the beheading of babies. That story sounded like straight bullshit from the start. Were there maybe a few adult beheadings? Possible. Were some children shot during the assault? Also possible. Beheading a bunch of babies? HIGHLY doubt it. That doesn't even make logical sense if you think about it rationally for a second.
.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netany...ered-by-hamas/

Gumby 10-12-2023 02:21 PM
Fuck, I don't know what to believe anymore...

SkinnyPupp 10-12-2023 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9111697)
Beheading a bunch of babies? HIGHLY doubt it. That doesn't even make logical sense if you think about it rationally for a second.
Dude don't go looking for logic from insane terrorists. If they could think logically, they wouldn't be insane terrorists!

Not saying whether it's true or not.. I'd believe it's true if enough people said it was though, because these people are NOT logical... Frankly I don't know why people find it so hard to believe? I know it sounds like something you'd make up, but invading a very secure country on sky gliders does too lol.

Hondaracer 10-12-2023 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9111711)
Dude don't go looking for logic from insane terrorists. If they could think logically, they wouldn't be insane terrorists!

Not saying whether it's true or not.. I'd believe it's true if enough people said it was though, because these people are NOT logical... Frankly I don't know why people find it so hard to believe? I know it sounds like something you'd make up, but invading a very secure country on sky gliders does too lol.
Well actual news outlets are now shitting on Biden for saying he say all these pictures of beheaded babies as more and more reports are coming out that it didn’t actually happen.

But hey, if you say it did that’s good enough for me.

SkinnyPupp 10-12-2023 03:31 PM
"Not saying whether it's true or not."

FailFish man, jesus christ


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