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CivicBlues 10-13-2023 08:48 AM

Jesus are you guys like new to Earth or something? The going exchange rate for Brown/Black to White lives is like 469:1 as of last market close.

underscore 10-13-2023 09:00 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJyglKW4AA4i1B.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9111781)
These Gaza bombings are really just pushing more extremists to Hamas's side.

I've been thinking the same thing, Israel's doing a great recruitment drive for Hamas right now. Anyone who survives this is going to have lost friends and family members and know exactly who authorized it.

Manic! 10-13-2023 12:56 PM

Just Audio.

https://twitter.com/Tr00peRR/status/...VCLFb_oMw&s=19

https://globalnews.ca/news/10022845/...thern-lebanon/

Reuters journalist killed, others injured in southern Lebanon

JDMDreams 10-13-2023 02:27 PM

That's actually a lot since the population of Israel is only 9.3m so if you compare that to USA pop 339m it's equivalent to 54838 Americans getting killed in a week. It's a lot in proportion to their population



Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9111767)
1300 dead jews

way over 1500 dead Arabs now and probably likely more in the coming days due to this military action in Gaza

I think Isreal is going too far with this operation.


mikemhg 10-13-2023 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9111824)
That's actually a lot since the population of Israel is only 9.3m so if you compare that to USA pop 339m it's equivalent to 54838 Americans getting killed in a week. It's a lot in proportion to their population

So what does that say about the 340,000 who have lost their homes in Gaza? Gaza has a population of 590,481, that's over half the population losing their homes.

It's also hard to quanify how many will die through other ancillary reasons as a result of all the destruction.

The comparison isn't even close.

whitev70r 10-13-2023 05:05 PM

Most moderate Palestinians do not support Hamas and their values but do want to fight for basic human freedom and rights for Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Great68 10-13-2023 05:12 PM

Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center - NBC News

Quote:

The documents were found on the bodies of Hamas terrorists by Israeli first responders and shared with NBC News. They include detailed maps and show that Hamas intended to kill or take hostage civilians and school children.
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/i...47p-559543.jpg

JDMDreams 10-13-2023 07:06 PM

Moderate Palestinian didn't know Hamas were terrorist? What did they expect to happen after harbouring them all these years and lived with them in their society? Just the grumpy emo kids in school that will never do anything bad? I dunno, maybe those attack drills were just part of drama class, improv? :suspicious:

Badhobz 10-13-2023 07:13 PM

yeah but even if they knew what do you expect them to do about it?

1) rat them out to Israel? fast way to get a fatwah put on your family and/or get beheaded
2) continue living in your Israeli enforced squaller and ignore it? yup that sounds about it

JDMDreams 10-13-2023 07:22 PM

Well they better listen to the Hamas if their great leader is so good and stay put while the Jews air bombs and ground invades them. One less terrorist to deal with.

westopher 10-13-2023 07:37 PM

Wat

Hondaracer 10-13-2023 07:47 PM

Even this is like ehhh.. 10 minutes in photoshop I haven’t used in 15 years could come up with something

SkinnyPupp 10-13-2023 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9111866)
Even this is like ehhh.. 10 minutes in photoshop I haven’t used in 15 years could come up with something

I'd be skeptical too, but what would it take for you to believe it's legitimate?

Hondaracer 10-13-2023 08:40 PM

Tbh, nothing

Maybe like, live footage from a news cast or somthing

SkinnyPupp 10-13-2023 08:55 PM

I have that problem too.. There's people in media I trust on various topics, but with this I don't know. There's going to be so much misinformation being put out too, as people try to justify their actions.

Gumby 10-13-2023 09:08 PM

Like Hondaracer says, that map can be easily faked, and it's the kind of propaganda one side would put out for media outlets to eat up.

SkinnyPupp 10-13-2023 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9111872)
Like Hondaracer says, that map can be easily faked, and it's the kind of propaganda one side would put out for media outlets to eat up.

Yes but that doesn't cancel the possibility that it's real

sdubfid 10-14-2023 02:48 AM

Is it in Arabic with English number system? Any hamas members here? is that normal?

MG1 10-14-2023 03:00 AM

Also a very pristine copy.

No creases, torn or tattered edges.............


I'm a stamp collector. That them thar is a document in very fine condition. Looks like it hasn't seen much sunlight, rain, or dirt/sand of any kind. Maybe person used gloves.............Tee hee.

hud 91gt 10-14-2023 05:42 AM

I just spoke to a good buddy who’s sister is a reporter over there. Says Tel Aviv itself is pretty calm. Obviously not everywhere, but the “media loves to make a big deal of of things.” Not taking away from the situation just don’t believe everything you see/read.

SkinnyPupp 10-14-2023 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 9111891)
I just spoke to a good buddy who’s sister is a reporter over there. Says Tel Aviv itself is pretty calm. Obviously not everywhere, but the “media loves to make a big deal of of things.” Not taking away from the situation just don’t believe everything you see/read.

This is kind of a big deal, with our without the media

mikemhg 10-14-2023 12:44 PM

What pocket exactly? A dead guy?

So a dead guy had a perfectly pristine (doesn't even appear to have been folded) copy of a map within his shot/bombed pocket pointing to schools? Ya, alright :lol

Not even a spec of dirt. You try folding a map in your pocket and run around in the desert, tell me it looks like that.

This reminds me of when Colin Powell carted out those silly satellite pictures of "WMDs" to the UN as a means to start dropping bombs on Iraq.

Why do we continue to fall for this obvious propaganda?

mikemhg 10-14-2023 01:00 PM

Fuck I really don't want to come off like I'm being anti-Israeli here, I'm not.

Some of my favorite people in the world are Jewish.

My father is Muslim and he eschewed his entire religion when he left Nigeria because he found the religion to be ass backwards, hypocritical, and ignorant.

This entire issue is extremely conflicting because arguments made by both sides are right. Is Israel a more open and progressive society? Fuck yes. Their ideologies far more align with our own as opposed to any fundamentalist Muslim society. I would never want to live in a Muslim country.

At the same time, the way these people have had to live in this open air prison for the last few decades is practically insane. It is cruel, it is a form of apartheid, which is wrong however you want to dice it.

One of my favorite minds recently spoke about this whole situation, Gabor Mate. I recommend listening to his thoughts on this whole issue. If you know his story, he's Jewish, and a survivor of the holocaust.


Badhobz 10-14-2023 02:58 PM

Lousy British. Another great legacy of human suffering that can be directly traced back to those colonial bastards.

But I think you gotta be a real fucking sicko to move your family to the Middle East and squat on some Palestinians land all the while hiding behind your military. Their government actively promotes this so fuck them too.

SkinnyPupp 10-14-2023 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9111921)
What pocket exactly? A dead guy?

So a dead guy had a perfectly pristine (doesn't even appear to have been folded) copy of a map within his shot/bombed pocket pointing to schools? Ya, alright :lol

Not even a spec of dirt. You try folding a map in your pocket and run around in the desert, tell me it looks like that.

This reminds me of when Colin Powell carted out those silly satellite pictures of "WMDs" to the UN as a means to start dropping bombs on Iraq.

Why do we continue to fall for this obvious propaganda?

There's being skeptical, and there's being oblivious. Come on man lol

For these to be fake, it would mean Israel basically planned a terrorist attack on themselves, laying out in perfect detail the most effective way to attack Israel, and then.... just let them do it.... And then plant the plans on the soldiers.

That's a real stretch against logic, IMO. And that's not even addressing the somewhat ridiculous assumption that a dead soldier's maps will automatically be all blood soaked and destroyed.


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