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These Gaza bombings are really just pushing more extremists to Hamas's side.
I've been thinking the same thing, Israel's doing a great recruitment drive for Hamas right now. Anyone who survives this is going to have lost friends and family members and know exactly who authorized it.
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That's actually a lot since the population of Israel is only 9.3m so if you compare that to USA pop 339m it's equivalent to 54838 Americans getting killed in a week. It's a lot in proportion to their population
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1300 dead jews
way over 1500 dead Arabs now and probably likely more in the coming days due to this military action in Gaza
I think Isreal is going too far with this operation.
That's actually a lot since the population of Israel is only 9.3m so if you compare that to USA pop 339m it's equivalent to 54838 Americans getting killed in a week. It's a lot in proportion to their population
So what does that say about the 340,000 who have lost their homes in Gaza? Gaza has a population of 590,481, that's over half the population losing their homes.
It's also hard to quanify how many will die through other ancillary reasons as a result of all the destruction.
Most moderate Palestinians do not support Hamas and their values but do want to fight for basic human freedom and rights for Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.
The documents were found on the bodies of Hamas terrorists by Israeli first responders and shared with NBC News. They include detailed maps and show that Hamas intended to kill or take hostage civilians and school children.
Moderate Palestinian didn't know Hamas were terrorist? What did they expect to happen after harbouring them all these years and lived with them in their society? Just the grumpy emo kids in school that will never do anything bad? I dunno, maybe those attack drills were just part of drama class, improv?
yeah but even if they knew what do you expect them to do about it?
1) rat them out to Israel? fast way to get a fatwah put on your family and/or get beheaded
2) continue living in your Israeli enforced squaller and ignore it? yup that sounds about it
Well they better listen to the Hamas if their great leader is so good and stay put while the Jews air bombs and ground invades them. One less terrorist to deal with.
I have that problem too.. There's people in media I trust on various topics, but with this I don't know. There's going to be so much misinformation being put out too, as people try to justify their actions.
Like Hondaracer says, that map can be easily faked, and it's the kind of propaganda one side would put out for media outlets to eat up.
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I just spoke to a good buddy who’s sister is a reporter over there. Says Tel Aviv itself is pretty calm. Obviously not everywhere, but the “media loves to make a big deal of of things.” Not taking away from the situation just don’t believe everything you see/read.
I just spoke to a good buddy who’s sister is a reporter over there. Says Tel Aviv itself is pretty calm. Obviously not everywhere, but the “media loves to make a big deal of of things.” Not taking away from the situation just don’t believe everything you see/read.
This is kind of a big deal, with our without the media
So a dead guy had a perfectly pristine (doesn't even appear to have been folded) copy of a map within his shot/bombed pocket pointing to schools? Ya, alright
Not even a spec of dirt. You try folding a map in your pocket and run around in the desert, tell me it looks like that.
This reminds me of when Colin Powell carted out those silly satellite pictures of "WMDs" to the UN as a means to start dropping bombs on Iraq.
Why do we continue to fall for this obvious propaganda?
Fuck I really don't want to come off like I'm being anti-Israeli here, I'm not.
Some of my favorite people in the world are Jewish.
My father is Muslim and he eschewed his entire religion when he left Nigeria because he found the religion to be ass backwards, hypocritical, and ignorant.
This entire issue is extremely conflicting because arguments made by both sides are right. Is Israel a more open and progressive society? Fuck yes. Their ideologies far more align with our own as opposed to any fundamentalist Muslim society. I would never want to live in a Muslim country.
At the same time, the way these people have had to live in this open air prison for the last few decades is practically insane. It is cruel, it is a form of apartheid, which is wrong however you want to dice it.
One of my favorite minds recently spoke about this whole situation, Gabor Mate. I recommend listening to his thoughts on this whole issue. If you know his story, he's Jewish, and a survivor of the holocaust.
Lousy British. Another great legacy of human suffering that can be directly traced back to those colonial bastards.
But I think you gotta be a real fucking sicko to move your family to the Middle East and squat on some Palestinians land all the while hiding behind your military. Their government actively promotes this so fuck them too.
So a dead guy had a perfectly pristine (doesn't even appear to have been folded) copy of a map within his shot/bombed pocket pointing to schools? Ya, alright
Not even a spec of dirt. You try folding a map in your pocket and run around in the desert, tell me it looks like that.
This reminds me of when Colin Powell carted out those silly satellite pictures of "WMDs" to the UN as a means to start dropping bombs on Iraq.
Why do we continue to fall for this obvious propaganda?
There's being skeptical, and there's being oblivious. Come on man lol
For these to be fake, it would mean Israel basically planned a terrorist attack on themselves, laying out in perfect detail the most effective way to attack Israel, and then.... just let them do it.... And then plant the plans on the soldiers.
That's a real stretch against logic, IMO. And that's not even addressing the somewhat ridiculous assumption that a dead soldier's maps will automatically be all blood soaked and destroyed.
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