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Stuttgart is a blue collar industrial shithole and we ended up having to eat Burger King for dinner.
I've never heard anyone say that about Stuttgart before. I've had a very nice time there. The traffic can be a bit killer and of course there's no shortages of industry, but generally I'd say it's a delightful place.
Have a look at Mannheim. Yikes, that place is rough.
Nice, I had an EK that I k-swapped too... which mounts did they use? HASport? What steering rack? I used the EG rack but it still kind of sucked for steering feel. I sold the car for $7500 and had a looooooooooooong list of people messaging me about it. That was before the swap got so expensive though.
You're right the HASport mounts which seem fine. I'm not sure which rack to be honest, I have a feeling its the stock non powered EK. Honestly I'd really like to swap in a powered one.
I looked into the idea of doing the swap myself but when this one came up I went for it.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. We had such a great time that we are planning to do another one. That's the whole reason we are eyeing Porsches brand new as they are the only one left doing ED except for Volvo, and we aren't interested in Volvo. ED in Canada is also a zero cost option it seems, at least in the configurator it was.
Thing is ED is more of a logistical win win, especially for rarer specs.
Not really an experience...
Porsche is dealers prioritize ED buyers because they get a second allocation for the same spec - this helps them build their allocation base. If you buy a 911 GTS via ED, the dealer has to pay 5k to fulfill the ED order but in return they get a second 911 GTS allocation to sell locally.
GT cars excluded of course. Taycan ineligible for ED as well.
I've never heard anyone say that about Stuttgart before. I've had a very nice time there. The traffic can be a bit killer and of course there's no shortages of industry, but generally I'd say it's a delightful place.
Have a look at Mannheim. Yikes, that place is rough.
Maybe I'm just a dick or have high standards. If there wasn't the Porsche connection it is not a place I'd want to visit or stay. On our last night before dropoff we stayed in Frankfurt instead so my wife didn't have to waste her last day.
Maybe I'm just a dick or have high standards. If there wasn't the Porsche connection it is not a place I'd want to visit or stay. On our last night before dropoff we stayed in Frankfurt instead so my wife didn't have to waste her last day.
I'm gonna sound like a privileged fuck saying this but even Frankfurt's very mid, it's a banking/industrial city like Toronto.
Most of Germany's kinda like New Jersey or Southern Ontario - lots of farmland/greenery and a lot of medium sized industrial cities.
Hamburg, Berlin, and Munich have got some culture depending on what you're looking for.
Maybe I'm just a dick or have high standards. If there wasn't the Porsche connection it is not a place I'd want to visit or stay. On our last night before dropoff we stayed in Frankfurt instead so my wife didn't have to waste her last day.
I've done Germany completely different. The first time we went we visited Berlin, which itself is full of history. We ventured to the offbeat parts and it was an awesome place.
The second time was ED with BMW. Munich was pretty interesting but that was it for us in terms of big cities. We picked up the car and hit up Linderhof on the suggestion of our delivery specialist and towards Neuschwanstein. Along the way we hit Augsburg, Rothenburg, Cochem, Eltz Castle, Nurburgring, Aachen. Frankfurt was on the way but we decided to just skip it and drove on the highway around it on the outskirts.
I think maybe as AstulzerRZD said, avoid the major centers as they are boring and go to all the other things.
Stuttgart also has the MB museum which I enjoyed a lot more than Porsche's. MB's museum was like walking through their timeline and understanding their journey up to this point, while the Porsche museum was just a basic gallery of P-cars on platforms.
Stuttgart also has the MB museum which I enjoyed a lot more than Porsche's. MB's museum was like walking through their timeline and understanding their journey up to this point, while the Porsche museum was just a basic gallery of P-cars on platforms.
We can see this on 3 road! Or at any Spanish Banks meet tbh zzzzz
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Ehhhh I didn't have the best experience and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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It's a $1500 option for starters. I chose to do Stuttgart as the date I was given was January 22nd, so I chose Zuffenhausen over Leipzig and planned a snowboarding trip in Switzerland instead of the usual track day shit. All I've ever wanted to do my whole life is see the factory in Stuttgart where they build 911s.
Everything is out of pocket, apart from the very mediocre hotel they will put you up in for up to 2 nights. I had to pay 400 euros to rent a set of snow tires.
The actual "experience" is pretty underwhelming, basically a sales guy shows you how to pair your phone and adjust your seat and walks you through the features, much like taking delivery at your local dealership. We flew in the night before, and then had to be at Porsche at 7:30am, so we were pretty exhausted and feeling the jet lag. The day they gave us was a Monday, and most stuff in that town (including our hotel restaurant) is closed Sundays and Mondays. Stuttgart is a blue collar industrial shithole and we ended up having to eat Burger King for dinner.
The factory I've been waiting my whole life to visit was closed on our scheduled day, so we were given a tour of the Sondermunsch (special wishes division) where we could see them applying stripes and graphics to GT cars. Maybe cool for some people but not really my thing.
After that you get a complimentary lunch in the corporate dining room which was actually excellent (choice of two tasting menus and wine pairing).
The real downside is, after that day Porsche consideres your vehicle delivered, and then it goes through like a third party logistics company for transport, your point of contact is PCNA in Atlanta versus your dealer, and it took them 4 months to get the vehicle to Seattle. It was basically missing in europe for 2 of those months. It was also damaged in transport and the roof needed to be repainted.
Driving a decent car in Europe is a fun experience though, I don't know if I'll be able to rent a Fiat 500 or Skoda Octavia again.
man that sucks u had a crappy experience. youtubers make the pcar ed experience seem so cool
I want to do a full PPF because I want to be lazy with upkeep, but I don't know if I can stomach the price of full PPF on a large car like an X5. To get a quality job where I know it will be done properly is closing in on 10k.
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I'm not a fan of coloured wraps, much prefer paint. The guy said he'll work with me to see if we can get a package that works for me but I think I'm leaning towards just getting the thing properly detailed and doing ceramic coat.
ya, i quickly decided on ceramic coating after getting quoted 10k for ppf too
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My coating is now over 4 years old and is still doing great with fairly minimal upkeep - it spent about half its life parked outside as well. The ROI on it ($2k job) has been great.
my coating was done by the dealership, i think they wanted $1000 or something but i was able to get it down to half that. it worked great up until now, i already feel the beading effect is going away after just a year. you get what you paid for
I'm gonna sound like a privileged fuck saying this but even Frankfurt's very mid, it's a banking/industrial city like Toronto.
Most of Germany's kinda like New Jersey or Southern Ontario - lots of farmland/greenery and a lot of medium sized industrial cities.
Hamburg, Berlin, and Munich have got some culture depending on what you're looking for.
I agree, Frankfurt is mid. Nice river, a few nice places to eat, but mostly government and drug users. Probably not a bad place to live, but not worth a visit unless you're there on business.
Hamburg, Berlin, Munich as you say are good times. Obviously the area near Nurburgring
Heidelburg, Baden-Baden are amazing. The whole Rhine valley is well worth losing a few million people over.
Would rather just take a eurotrip and do local pickup as opposed to ED.. lol
A buddies step dad is a huge merc customer and when he bought his SLS they insisted on ED based on his relationship with Merc. Sounded pretty crazy from what I gathered I feel like he got to meet the actual guy who built his specific engine, had a track day with it, etc.
That whole area around Stuttgart is kind of a black hole in terms of Germany. Only went through Stuttgart on train but it looked much like Wolfsburg did with just chimney stacks everywhere and the grey drear that is much of Germany lol
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my coating was done by the dealership, i think they wanted $1000 or something but i was able to get it down to half that. it worked great up until now, i already feel the beading effect is going away after just a year. you get what you paid for
Yeah, the dealer stuff is often barely better than a spray on wax. The pro coatings that are out there can be quite durable - with just a bit of upkeep they can last 4-5 years so the extra cost can be worth it. Mine comes with a 9 year "warranty" but the warranty isn't really worth the paper it's written on but it's a decent signal of durability relative to other products - I'd be happy to get a solid 5 years out of it.
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