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Well, it's a Cybertruck-like situation with slightly more invested... you got hundreds of people who were willing to slap $500 on their credit card for a fully refundable deposit... how many will actually go through with the purchase? Probably very few.
^ It's Vancouver afterall. There are 3 older Lexus LX in around my area, the ones that look like a LC with Lexus badges, all three are the same colour and they do zero offroading, driven by grannies and grandpas. They will buy these up because it's what they are used to driving and they trust that it'll last forever.
Don't bother trying to buy those cars from the grannies though as the driveline has seen zero maintenance. I had to help one get unstuck last winter. AWD system won't engage, center lock obviously won't turn on then, rear locker won't engage either. Took me awhile to finally get them out.
Well, it's a Cybertruck-like situation with slightly more invested... you got hundreds of people who were willing to slap $500 on their credit card for a fully refundable deposit... how many will actually go through with the purchase? Probably very few.
I was going to say the same thing. lol. And you got the people just trying to flip their spot for cash.
No doubt, the early allocations might command overs, but at prices like this in the current market, I doubt dealers will have the 3 year waitlists they're claiming to have.
But they're not tho? Openroad Richmond for example has like 2 entire pages on their website of BZ4X sitting on their new car inventory.
I would be shocked if they were BZ4x's at above MSRP. Local dealers have a ton of inventory, and they seem to be advertising them quite aggressively as well. Tons of Ariya's listed on Autotrader as well. They would need to discount them to make it even make it worthwhile to consider...
I watched the video, and it made me realize that suddenly the Toyota NA lineup is really crowded. The Land Cruiser looks great in either round or square lights, but it's in reality a Prado. The 4R and the LC are also going to be quite close in price and there's some overlap in capabilities.
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this is my biggest fear, just because i have shallow pockets lololol....
trying to be careful (defn not hooning it) and yet one slip up towards the end probably cost $$$$ if it was your own vehicle...
dang lolol, off roading more costly than track days?
It's gonna cost you either ways if you do the dumb. Extraction is UBER expensive if you fuck up in the middle of nowhere and can't pull out. Also why it's not recommended to go by yourself ever.
It's gonna cost you either ways if you do the dumb. Extraction is UBER expensive if you fuck up in the middle of nowhere and can't pull out. Also why it's not recommended to go by yourself ever.
Yeah if you end up needing something like helo extraction it's crazy expensive, I want to say it was something like $15k for a guy in BC a few years ago. That's part of why I think offroading should be done with cheap vehicles unless you have really deep pockets.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
Yeah if you end up needing something like helo extraction it's crazy expensive, I want to say it was something like $15k for a guy in BC a few years ago. That's part of why I think offroading should be done with cheap vehicles unless you have really deep pockets.
One of the guys here (forgot his username) offroads his Jeep GC. He said he traded for an older one because it won't hurt if he has to ditch it. Sounds like if you need to ditch a vehicle, there's a good chance it'll get vandalized, nevermind the damage from putting a wheel wrong.
That's me. I've got a little more into it now but there's still no scenario where damaging it would cause me financial hardship. I wouldn't be able to say the same if I was one of those guys with $100k into a Wrangler that's really owned by the bank.
As far as ditching it goes if you're somewhere really out of the way you might be fine. If you're in the more well traveled areas the odds of your vehicle not being trashed are hit and miss. A little while ago a buddy of mine had to leave his truck overnight and his wheels got stolen.
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1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed]
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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Originally Posted by Good_KarMa
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
That's me. I've got a little more into it now but there's still no scenario where damaging it would cause me financial hardship. I wouldn't be able to say the same if I was one of those guys with $100k into a Wrangler that's really owned by the bank.
As far as ditching it goes if you're somewhere really out of the way you might be fine. If you're in the more well traveled areas the odds of your vehicle not being trashed are hit and miss. A little while ago a buddy of mine had to leave his truck overnight and his wheels got stolen.
Haha that's embarrassing.... I'll walk away now don't follow me.
The land rover group had a new defender get stuck on top of a mountain in the interior. It was left there for a week until a local land rover shop owner took off the steering rack and took it to kelowna to get welded and then jb welded the oil pan back and drove the truck to a major fsr to get towed. Of course JLR denied the warranty claim but they did tow it back to town lol.
tbh, older trucks are easier to fix and MacGyver something back to civilization.
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damn the fancy launch editions dont have front bashplate?
To be fair, front skid plates aren't always a good idea. I had a defender totally geared up for my overland trip in Africa (6 months on the "road") and the outfitters said they would be happy to sell us one, but that we shouldn't put one on unless we are doing some rock crawling. The extra weight isn't helpful, but more importantly if you get stuck in deep sand/mud the first thing you do is backup. A skid plate can just plow in when you backup and then you're really fucked.
We had diff guards, but no skid plate in the end.
Also, the aluminum ones that come OEM are usually the worst of both worlds. They won't take a big hit, and will plow into the mud. At least, that's what I've heard.
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