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Old 05-03-2024, 12:22 PM   #76
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LMAO at dealers claiming 2 year waitlist and $1000 deposit just to get on the list. The interior treatment is BS, but it looks like there's no dealer markup. And I'm not surprised to see one listed; it's too expensive, and buyers at $100k+ thin out quickly when finance/lease rates are at 8.99%, and you don't have your typical cash buyers who would tap into LoCs when money was cheap. The car market, in general, is in a funk.
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I feel like Openroad has been working really hard since the pandemic to make sure they're known as the biggest asshole dealership group in the whole Lower Mainland. Fuck them and their elitest stipulations.

At least the Openroad Toyota parts department is nice.
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There was a picture floating around the requirements Openroad wants if you buy a G-Wagen. Now G-wagens are sitting on the lots.
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There was a picture floating around the requirements Openroad wants if you buy a G-Wagen. Now G-wagens are sitting on the lots.
The GX will sit around as well. Some of these dealers are still stuck in 2021/22.
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I feel like Openroad has been working really hard since the pandemic to make sure they're known as the biggest asshole dealership group in the whole Lower Mainland. Fuck them and their elitest stipulations.

At least the Openroad Toyota parts department is nice.
I feel the same. That’s why I was really happy with regency. Openroad Lexus sales isn’t playing ball. Their service department is still staffed with some cool dudes that I’ve known for 15+ years
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The Ineos Grenadier is around the same price I think. They have a dealer in van.

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I feel like Openroad has been working really hard since the pandemic to make sure they're known as the biggest asshole dealership group in the whole Lower Mainland. Fuck them and their elitest stipulations.

At least the Openroad Toyota parts department is nice.
I heard of an instance where OpenRoad charged $300 for a screen protector. They have definitely gotten worse during the pandemic years.
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https://jalopnik.com/toyota-finally-...ave-1851513186

So all these V35A twin Turbo v6's are being recalled. Ugh this is why i dislike toyota going turbocharging... you add complexity, and you get this.

"“with a specific V35A engine that contains crankshaft main bearings which allow the crankshaft to rotate within the engine assembly while running. During a specific production period, there is a possibility that engine machining debris of a particular size and amount may not have been cleared from the engine during manufacturing and subsequently contaminated the engine assembly during the production process.”

“...for these engines in the subject vehicles, the pressure on the main bearings due to the engine configuration is such that, if the aforementioned machining debris adheres to the bearings and operation of the engine continues at higher loads over time, failure of the bearings may occur. This can lead to potential engine knocking, engine rough running, engine no start and/or an engine stall. In the subject vehicles, an engine stall while driving leads to a loss of motive power."
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Almost all first year vehicles can have issues. It's not like turbos are new for Toyota. They aren't even new for the Land Cruiser if you take into account the diesel engines, which are also tough as nails.
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It didn't have much to do with the turbo's either... apparently a part of manufacturing process at a point in time where metal fragments were left inside the engine.
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Aye true. Not directly related to the turbos but they probably had to redesign that engine in a way to accommodate the turbos / emission standards.

I’m still disappointed in Toyota
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I heard of an instance where OpenRoad charged $300 for a screen protector. They have definitely gotten worse during the pandemic years.
Literally just met a guy who told me about the $299 screen protector for a Prius Prime
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It's not as bad as the Lamborghini screen protector which is $600.
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Yeah but the cheapest Lambo is over 5x more than a Prius Prime at MSRP. That screen protector is on discount!
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Saw one in Tswwassen yesterday. Looks good but a lot smaller than I thought. It doesn't look like a 90k truck. It's like a more sophisticated brother of the 4runner. It looks like absolutely nothing else on the road with it's retro looks.
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Seen my first few on the road .. holy shit this thing is bland.
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It didn't have much to do with the turbo's either... apparently a part of manufacturing process at a point in time where metal fragments were left inside the engine.
The V35A been having bearing issues since the LS500.

The Tundra variant got a cast bottom end and some physical changes for how the bearings are held.

Still having bearing issues, IMO it's more than manufacturing
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I just went through a round of doing truck shopping for my dad's business (hence the Lightning).
+ Used to work in product planning for Japanese OEM / for a domestic OEM on the tech side.
+ on online forums, just gotta look for the people who work for OEMs & in the service lane.

Tundra is the only light duty left with 8 foot bed, so we realllly considered it.
Very poorly laid out interior / engine killed it tho and wtf is with pricing/packages?
Need to get the Capstone to get a 360 camera when it's standard on SR5 equivalent F-150.

F150 finally has a "fixed" transmission that I don'tn expect to need a rebuild within warranty period.
But, the 2.7 and 5.0 now have a wet oil pump belt which failed a lot in the 1.0 ecoboost & I think they still require a special oil.
PowerBoost is incredibly unreliable.

GM are scrap metal - the frames have poor rust coating and the V8s have head issues.
2.7T might be ok but we don't have enough info.

IMO just get a Lightning if you need to put a rack on unless you're towing at highway speeds for long distance.
In which case, get a diesel or Silverado EV.

Medium / Heavy duty wise....

RAM has awful leases, sketchy trans, and the best motor/front suspension.
GM are just uncompetitive.
Ford has a great motor/leases ... the PowerStroke is really crammed in that engine bay so the gasser's my pick if you aren't always towing.

For a fun car?

The Land Rover crowd are now all in Rivians, which have a great interior and leases but ride stiff.
Wrangler's 4XE seems unreliable but US leases are cheap, 392 is crazy expensive but it's what the heart wants.
Still don't trust the Bronco 2.3 / 3.0, which seem to have a lot of problems in the explorer.

My pick? I'm probably in a Rivian - fits in with the Tahoe / Aspen / Montauk crowd.
4XE if you must have an open top.
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Anyone know why diesel drivetrains seem hugely more reliable than gas ICE?

How come they can go hundreds of thousands of kms without much talk of issues? Seems it's both the engine and the transmission, too.

Is it because the same design is built into product lineups for long periods without refresh, so kind of a "if it ain't broke don't fix it"? Because there's no huge incentive to improve their fuel economy?
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The diesel power trains generally aren’t more reliable.

All the emissions equipment is critical but very expensive and problematic.
Every diesel with the CP4 pump has a $10k impending failure.
Ford 6.0/6.4 were disasters.

It’s really just the Cummins that are lasting a while…. Backed by several transmission rebuilds.
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Anyone know why diesel drivetrains seem hugely more reliable than gas ICE?

How come they can go hundreds of thousands of kms without much talk of issues? Seems it's both the engine and the transmission, too.

Is it because the same design is built into product lineups for long periods without refresh, so kind of a "if it ain't broke don't fix it"? Because there's no huge incentive to improve their fuel economy?
I don't know if I would call them more reliable.

The engines are much heavier duty and yes they can take more abuse overall in general if you are always towing. If you aren't there's not a whole lot of reason to splurge for a diesel as the maintenance costs will catch up to you real quick. They have a lot more accessories/peripherals that can go wrong.
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