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hud 91gt 03-11-2024 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9128845)
They're getting discontinued because imo other than the powertrain and chassis tuning, it's a really shitty car that feels scary to daily drive for all the reasons you mentioned.

I feel the chassis tuning strikes the goldilocks balance of compliance (super rare in modern sports cars) and firmness to feel agile the way the E46 did. Brake pedal and steering feel were both progressive and consistent which is a rarity these days (looking at you... BMW, Ford, and Mercedes).

Keep in mind the rental came with shitty all seasons (that the rental company might've replaced with Chinese tires if there was a flat) and definitely didn't have the Brembo brakes nor the 1LE package that comes with 275s in the back.

Specced right, the ZL1 1LE ties a Huracan EVO and beats a 488 GTB around VIR,
The SS 1LE's barely off the pace of a 981 GT4, faster than an LFA and GTR at launch
... even the 2.0T is faster than a 07 911 Turbo, RC F, and E92 M3.
I hadn’t really thought of the ride/handling too much until you brought it up. Just so overshadowed. I also assumed it was a V6, had no idea they made a Turbo4, it totally could have been that. I’m gonna have to search the rental fleet now. It also definitely had an open diff, and likely crappy tires like you said.

AstulzerRZD 03-11-2024 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 9128863)
I hadn’t really thought of the ride/handling too much until you brought it up. Just so overshadowed. I also assumed it was a V6, had no idea they made a Turbo4, it totally could have been that. I’m gonna have to search the rental fleet now. It also definitely had an open diff, and likely crappy tires like you said.
totally agreed - that chassis is way better in the Cadillac CT4 and CT5 where the weight matters a lot less and the rest of the car isn't a total POS

jcmaz 03-12-2024 04:06 PM
LC500 - kind of want one now. What a soundtrack!

Badhobz 03-12-2024 08:33 PM
^when I was in Hong Kong I went to the Lexus dealership and they said the LC wasn’t even available for purchase there.

Weird.

tofu1413 03-12-2024 09:39 PM
LC500 is such an under rated machine...


an actual reliable, useable... aston martin kind of car.

Badhobz 03-13-2024 05:39 AM
I just wish more people our age drives it. there is ZERO lc community in vancouver.

I think the occasional fob drives it, but otherwise its old white men. Normal asian dudes cant justify paying ~170k for a lexus

Dbone 03-13-2024 06:37 AM
I've seen a few around Nanaimo. I like seeing them because then I can think to myself 'and they say the G87 M2 is heavy!'. :alonehappy:

They do sound mega though.

jcmaz 03-13-2024 07:02 AM
There's a yellow vert LC500 in downtown coal harbour

Badhobz 03-13-2024 07:07 AM
^ive seen that dude around, i think he's an older white guy too

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Originally Posted by Dbone (Post 9129067)
I can think to myself 'and they say the G87 M2 is heavy!'. :alonehappy:
IT IS HEAVY!!! 3900lbs on such a small car vs 4400lb on the LC which is twice the size

EvoFire 03-13-2024 08:17 AM
We would have one if we didn't have kids.

Before kids we had a Miata and Mini Cooper at one point, we don't need big cars.

Traum 03-13-2024 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9129064)
I think the occasional fob drives it, but otherwise its old white men. Normal asian dudes cant justify paying ~170k for a lexus
It has always seemed to me that there are only 3 types of customers interested in V8:

- boomer generation that grew up in N.America
- those looking for executive sedans
- those looking for V8 muscle cars

Very few Asian dudes fall into these few categories.

AstulzerRZD 03-13-2024 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9129091)
It has always seemed to me that there are only 3 types of customers interested in V8:

- boomer generation that grew up in N.America
- those looking for executive sedans
- those looking for V8 muscle cars

Very few Asian dudes fall into these few categories.
You might be surprised at the number of FOBs driving Challenger in the Seattle area .... maybe 70% of them are Asian driven and always a V8

The southside ABCs are in Subarus ofc (which imo are less comfortable, reliable, and economical to run than what's essentially a pickup truck motor in a car) and the northside ABCs are in BMW/MB

bcrdukes 03-13-2024 09:40 AM
Ditto on that.

There is a huge sub-culture of super FOB Asian guys driving around in Mustangs, Challengers, and Camaros here in the GTA. I've seen a growing number of them in Los Angeles too.

Traum 03-13-2024 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9129092)
You might be surprised at the number of FOBs driving Challenger in the Seattle area .... maybe 70% of them are Asian driven and always a V8
I would never have thought of Asian FOBs doing that... <mindblown>

Razor Ramon HG 03-13-2024 10:09 AM
I've seen my fair share in Richmond. They're memorable because I'm so used to seeing white or brown people driving them, lmao.

teggy604 03-13-2024 10:26 AM
^^ me too. Although what gets me is a mixture of culture. You got the big American V8 muscle car, and then you got some huge anime sticker on the window or door, or some sort of Asian characters. lol.

Traum 03-13-2024 10:53 AM
Now that you guys mentioned it, I have seen a few Mustang GT and Camaro SS with custom vinyl graphics / anime wraps on the cars around the city. There were at least 1 Mustang GT, a Coca Cola Camaro, and a Dodge Challenger with young Asian dude drivers that took their cars to Mission too.

Kudos to these kids for taking it to the track! :thumbsup:

bcrdukes 03-13-2024 12:15 PM
I love that Ford has their Mustang GT3 in this year's WEC series. Looking forward to how they do over the next few years as they contest it in the series.

Gerbs 03-13-2024 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9128856)
I wanted to drive an S2k forever too and was planning to buy one way back before prices shot up... but then I spent a day driving a friend's minty 2005 around and I didn't like it at all. Definitely a never meet your heroes moment for me personally.
I'm the complete opposite, I can't find many cars that are equally as fun to drive + reliable.

Everything else that's "worth" the fun per dollar is probably $80 - 100K+

AstulzerRZD 03-13-2024 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9129117)
I love that Ford has their Mustang GT3 in this year's WEC series. Looking forward to how they do over the next few years as they contest it in the series.
Maybe they will finally take their learnings and fix the rear suspension's bushings and geometry lol

AstulzerRZD 03-13-2024 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9129141)
I'm the complete opposite, I can't find many cars that are equally as fun to drive + reliable.

Everything else that's "worth" the fun per dollar is probably $80 - 100K+
to be fair, within Vancouver it's not the most exciting thing to drive; mostly straight roads from Richmond to Downtown... and also east <> west

compared to highway commute in Seattle where you get to launch cuz of the traffic lights for the highway merge, hella blind turns coming off to Union street, decreasing radius & off camber corners on 90... was actually fun to daily

Tapioca 03-14-2024 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 9128626)
IMHO, nothing beats a Honda B series, especially the B16A with whale penis or short ram intake. You get a huge induction noise followed by a loud VTEC crossover.
I had a DB2 for over a decade with the NA only B17. I also had an AEM cold air intake for a while. Definitely a lot of fun hitting VTEC.

I think it's wild that people are using the E46 as a benchmark over 20 years later as it was just a commodity car - it really shows how great the chassis was. Can't wait to take my E46 'vert out of my garage in a few weeks' time for summer driving season.

BMW made the N52 all the way up to 2012/2013ish with the E82.

bcrdukes 03-14-2024 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9129142)
Maybe they will finally take their learnings and fix the rear suspension's bushings and geometry lol
Based on their race results, it's going to take them quite some time. :concentrate:

BIC_BAWS 03-29-2024 07:21 PM
I found a solid video of a FA5. Intake + vtec is chefs kiss

AstulzerRZD 04-02-2024 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9129212)
Based on their race results, it's going to take them quite some time. :concentrate:
Nothing like recycling a bad chassis from 1998 for the third time ...

At least the Challenger's recycling a good chassis from Mercedes


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