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10-24-2024, 03:57 PM
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#1 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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10-24-2024, 04:11 PM
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#2 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Rather get this, I don't want to wait another 10 years for a new maker to learn to build a car, cough rivian, fisker, I think the only ones doing ok that's not illegal to sell here is lucid or vinfast.  | |
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10-24-2024, 05:12 PM
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#3 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by JDMDreams  Rather get this, I don't want to wait another 10 years for a new maker to learn to build a car, cough rivian, fisker, I think the only ones doing ok that's not illegal to sell here is lucid or vinfast. | Scout = VW
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10-24-2024, 05:12 PM
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#4 | | RabidMod
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10-24-2024, 05:16 PM
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#5 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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That side profile is 90% Rivian
SUV looks better than Rivian but the truck looks worse imo
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10-24-2024, 05:23 PM
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#6 | | RabidMod
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I put a deposit down on the Scout SUV, it's only $150 anyway  .
The bench front seat is a huge selling point to me. As well as real mechanical buttons, switches, and knobs. I really hate the all-touchscreen experience.
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10-24-2024, 06:18 PM
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#7 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Just noticed the headliner, not sure if I'm a fan of it but it's different.
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10-24-2024, 08:03 PM
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#8 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Hahaha... Rivian basically sold it soul for 5B.
Like... who's going to buy R1T/S now that people know a car that's 90% the same costs 15k less?
VW is doing what it does best. Take an existing car, slap different panels and trims. Boom... new car model. 
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10-24-2024, 08:07 PM
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#9 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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new bronco took the industry in a good design direction
retro done right
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10-24-2024, 08:53 PM
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#10 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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I like it. I'm guessing 70k USD, so it'll be 120k CAD all said and done with desireable options and taxes and all the jazz
EDIT: Wow shit it's huge. 15" longer and 5" wider than my X5. That's not gonna fit in the garage.
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10-24-2024, 09:34 PM
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#11 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Not bad. I like it. I wouldn’t buy one….. but I still like it.
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10-24-2024, 09:40 PM
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#12 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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By the time this starts production, cyber truck will already be revised and upgraded. You can probably pick one up for $50000 cad by then. Can VW, and their Aryan unions afford to bleed money till then?
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10-24-2024, 09:57 PM
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#13 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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They talking about how vdub only has like 1-2 years to live. Otherwise kaput…..
given how much the quality tanked on their recent vehicles. Yeah…. For sure only 1-2 years to live. Nobody in their right minds would buy one nowadays unless it’s heavily discounted. Ie my Hitlerbox.
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10-25-2024, 08:18 AM
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#14 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Badhobz Not bad. I like it. I wouldn’t buy one….. but I still like it. | It looks neat, but most of these kinda-retro styled things don't look like the sort of thing I'd want to look at every day.
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10-25-2024, 09:13 AM
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#15 | | RabidMod
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Originally Posted by Hehe Hahaha... Rivian basically sold it soul for 5B.
Like... who's going to buy R1T/S now that people know a car that's 90% the same costs 15k less? | You pay a heavy premium for a Rivian to straddle the worlds between off-road capability and on-road performance.
The R1 platform has a kinetic suspension (hydraulically cross-linked damping system) that deletes corner lean, on a 7000lb truck. That's hypercar technology: their chief engineer came from McLaren. The truck also lowers for entry and lifts to 15" of ground clearance for rock crawling. That's 7" of lift from min to max. The system also levels the vehicle at 4 corners for camping.
Not to mention the quad-motors, which allows torque vectoring on both axles, to the limits of physics: to the extent it could literally run the wheels in opposite directions, which was the "tank turn" move Rivian eventually removed only for safety reasons.
In Rally Mode, I was consistently pulling off all-wheel power slides, pedal to the floor, with drift angle locked by the computer, then launched itself straight out on corner exit. Corner after corner after corner. All with *less body roll than my S2000*.
This is the same truck I took weekend rock crawling in Hollister Hills SVRA.
Successfully spanning two completely opposite ends of automotive capability is called magic, if you ask me. And that magic is worth at least $15k: the value proposition is there, but it does have to be for the right buyer, to really get enough enjoyment out of that kind of experience.
Meanwhile, I mean come on, these Scouts have solid rear axles. They're not applying mad-science levels of engineering to pull of something that should be impossible. They're not trying to. It's going to be super-capable off-road, and "just ok" on-road.
I think the Rivian R2 is going to be the better comparable, and it'll be available an entire year or more earlier, while being more attainable. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hehe VW is doing what it does best. Take an existing car, slap different panels and trims. Boom... new car model. | You used the wrong emoji. You mean to say it's a  .
The more you can leverage common elements, the more scale you can leverage for better cost efficiency (better capital utilization & pooled R&D resource), and higher reliability (consolidated test, validation, and design iteration). That's win-win for everyone.
The only downside is a propensity for blandness, but if they're "getting away with it" as you're implying, that's better for all of us.
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10-25-2024, 09:54 AM
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#16 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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This is what the launch tells me:
1) Software: they're using Rivian OS, big blow to German teams
2) Batteries: they think they're gonna hit 500mi range on a normal car if they're promising 350mi on this brick
3) Cost: Future EVs are gonna be cheap AF if they think they can offer this at 50k.
4) Skunkworks: With Scout operating pretty hands off and releasing this banger, Ford's Cali Skunkworks team had better do the same for T3 launch
5) Audience: They're thing southern Alix Earle/Bronco and truck guys will want EVs enough to order this one with a bench seat in 2027/8.
6) ADAS: VW's really fucked on hitting level 3/4
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10-25-2024, 11:07 AM
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#17 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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I think the Rivian R2 is going to be the better comparable, and it'll be available an entire year or more earlier, while being more attainable.
| exactly i was shocked this costs more than the R2 which looks more usable day to day
wish i didn't look too much into it that the designer did jeep cherokees, now all is see is cherokeeEV
i hope they make it to the end of the decade and with reliability and decent profits
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10-25-2024, 12:00 PM
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#18 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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Saw R2 in showroom, it's RAV4 size while Traveler is bigger than Tahoe AND R1S
This is more a cut rate R1S where they threw refinement and on road hydraulic suspension wizadry out the window
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10-25-2024, 07:51 PM
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#19 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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the truck looks awesome
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10-25-2024, 08:45 PM
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#20 | | RabidMod
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The front bench seats: :format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/25697514/GasDy0IWUAAggf0.jpeg)
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10-25-2024, 08:50 PM
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#21 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by RabidRat The front bench seats: | It's doing something Tesla could not pull off. the cybertruck was suppose to be a 6 seater with a bench in the front.
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10-25-2024, 11:20 PM
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#22 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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10-26-2024, 10:53 AM
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#23 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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Still too expensive. Few rich people might buy it, but that's about it.
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10-26-2024, 01:32 PM
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#24 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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they're already being threatened by lawsuit for going tesla way of cutting out dealers lol https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...nt%20retailers.
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