No you don't

Sometimes yes, but you would never hear the end of it.

I did block all of their numbers. They're just gonna find other ways to contact me, evidently. In this case an intern's phone, I assume.

Almost feels easier to give them what they want than to screen every single call that comes in.

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Idk why you'd even help them with the list, maybe at $200-300/hour+ $10k deposit retainer, but even that seems cheap.

I'd feel like a dirty whore helping them for this but moneys money.





I'd email this and leave it at that
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Hi [Boss who wants free labour],

I hope this message finds you well!

As I transition out of my current role, I wanted to extend the option for retention services to ensure continuity and a smooth handover. I’m offering my expertise at $2-300/hour with a $10,000 retainer for 40 hours of consulting to begin, providing ongoing support as needed during this period. Unfortunately at this time I can only provide support with compensation as my new role is intensive and I value my time.

If this aligns with your needs, I’d be happy to tailor the arrangement to your requirements.

Best regards,
[Free Workhorse]

These people sound seriously deranged if they can find so many ways to harass you and supposedly run a business at the same time. They likely won't respond well to any tongue-in-cheek "consulting" fee letter.

Restraining Order. Now.

Bra.. you’re fucked man lol what are you doing :failed:

I am subscribing to this thread.

Honestly shouldn't even have said you were having trouble with your phone, admit you blocked them and say you would appreciate them not contacting you again and hang up.

These people made you miserable and anything they want from you is completely self serving don't forget that.

Just speak to them. Tell them to leave you the fuck alone. You left cause you don't like it and that's the end of it. They are playing games. Be the bigger man and just say you want no fucking part of it.
Tell them to grow up and chalk it up as a lesson learned for everyone.
I'm gonna say it loud cause I know it's tough for you the way you spoke about it in this thread.
YOU DONT WORK FOR THEM ANYMORE AND THEY HAVE ZERO POWER OVER YOU.

It sounds like textbook harassment. You're allowed to contact the police if you're feeling unsafe but you're also allowed to draw your final boundary with them.

Sounds like that company needs to die. What kind of professionalism are they displaying? NONE

If you win, I will petition RS to change your name to BIG_BAWS

^ it really does. cause this:

sounds an awful lot like:

which is criminal harassment in BC https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/la...h-stalking.pdf

sounds like you need a boob meat at your ex work place

lol the “we’re family” mumbo jumbo, if we are, give me family pay and part ownership of the company

Are you at liberty to share the address of your former employer's business?

Family pay might be worse than outsider pay :pokerface:

I am also job hunting - Upper management didn't approve my promotion so I'm on the hunt.

I'm in my late 20s, looking to work at a company where I genuinely care about the customers (currently just software developers).
I have promising inbound opportunities but need to focus on landing roles I truly want.

Goals:
1) Learn from inspiring Product Managers for a couple of years.
2) Explore side projects/startup ideas to prepare for a startup accelerator.
3) Network to find potential technical cofounders.

Concerns:
1) Burnout if I don't connect with coworkers or customers.
2) Securing the right opportunities, experiences, and mentorship.
3) Improving cross-organization collaboration and communication.

Similar to BIC_BAWS request:
What was your personal experience choosing between pay and passion?
How could you see the following 3 jobs working for me in late 20s/early 30s?


Option 1 (Recruiter contacted me)
- Fit for Experience: Exact fit
- Highlights: Reputable big company, internal developers
- Location: NYC in person
- Total Compensation: $350K , cash bonus
- Customer Base: software developers internal to the company

Option 2 (Have referral)
- Fit for Experience: Pretty good fit, with learning curve
- Highlights: Grindy startup culture, high hiring bar, well known web app
- Location: Remote with NYC office, SF HQ
- TC: $300K, RSUs, Acquisition got blocked
- Customer Base: Designers

Option 3
- Fit for Experience: Not an exact fit
- Highlights: Profitable & well-known consumer app
- Location: NY office, HQ in Pittsburgh
- TC: $250K (same as current)
- Customer Base: Consumer users - language learning/sports

^Make you own thread, don't hijack lol

BIC BAWS and I chatted on instagram about this, we cool

Mods, feel free to move it tho

I don't need to. I drive a bright red car, everyone knows where I work LOL

I read this whole doc.

Yes to avoiding certain places - haven't gone to that area of Richmond in like 3 weeks. I don't really want to drive into Richmond in case I bump into them.

I am concerned about harassment/libel against me with other people in Vancouver. Vancouver is small. But tbh this is the only way it could have happened.

I didn't want to be rude and admit I blocked them but it definitely sounds like I should have and asked them not to contact me. I find I always give in, in person or on the spot, because it's easier to deesclate than to increase the tension. But yes a restraining order sounds like a good idea.

I've been trying to tread carefully because I found case law on an Employer vs Employee, where the employee is a critical part of the business who left with no notice. And the employer won in this case for damages. I wouldn't put it beyond them to do such a thing.

If only BAWS was a hot girl. That drives a bright red FK8. And can't say no.

That would make it much easier to get a restraining order. It's kinda unmanly to get a restraining order against someone.

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I never cared much about pay or passion - I just chose to work at places where I could learn a lot and where I thought I'd like the people. The thing with pay is that it's so much anyways that an extra $50k isn't meaningful and the thing with passion is that there's so much BS that happens at work that it can really extinguish the excitement you have for your passion. I also didn't care much about the industry either - it's so much of the same shit, different container.

For my last few jobs I had a list of things I cared about learning and I sought jobs that gave me those things. For example, 2 jobs ago I decided that I needed to get more hands-on as a product leader - I had been managing big teams (15 directs) and had become more of an administrator and my craft was rusty. I looked for a job where my team would be smaller and that I would get to do some hands-on work so I could "sharpen my knife". I was also sick and tired of reporting to the CEO (or c-suite) so I looked for something that kept me a couple degrees removed from the CEO.

That all said, the two things I tell early career tech workers when thinking about their whole career is:

1. Go work at a place with a really high bar so you know what the standard can be. When you work at small places the bar is always lower b/c you work with inexperienced people and the processes are missing. Go work at a place where the talent bar for people and process is really high for a few years. You'll probably meet a few people that become future mentors or who you will always look up to (I worked with a Director of Eng at Amazon that was so capable and intelligent that I aspired to be just 10% as good as him). Too many people end up not working with the people of the highest tier in their lives and then get upset that their career is not progressing - well the problem is they aren't setting a high enough bar for themselves.

2. Go work at a small, scrappy place where you have to wear many hats and get to learn the whole business. Learn the value of relationship building, understand company financials, know how the sausage gets made across a company.

Find hobz to hook you up for abu Dhabi blue wrap for your civic. Isn't there some special Honda blue colour

Bump

Yeah. LBB OG M2 does not fall within this parameter. Garbage colour anyway.

Just the thought of entertaining the idea of a new car brings me to believe everything is off to a great start at the new job. Congrats!