Feedback on Professional Associations as an Indivdual/Business

[PeanutButter]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

thats how he's rich. he scams old ladies to give up their ATM pin's and add his name to their life insurance policy

Interestingly, an old lady I see regularly needed help accepting an e-transfer and she legit had her TD account information and password on a piece of paper in her wallet and got me to log into her account for her to accept it on her phone.

she did have the two factor phone SMS thing on her phone, so I guess that should prevent unwanted logins, but damn, some people just don't care.

[Badhobz]

you should have just jacked her money. people who are that stupid don't deserve to have any money in the bank.

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by PeanutButter

Yikes, that's offensive. I hope I don't convey that.

80% of the people I see are from referrals, so I hope I provide a level of service that warrants a personal referral.

This reads like a pyramid scheme.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by Traum

Good luck with the interview, Bic Baws.

If you do get the job, don't get your hopes up in the association's ability to have some political influence / lobbying. Whether the association has that sway heavily depends on how valuable the government views that sector as. In my wife's case, her sector was obviously deemed to be pretty unimportant as the provincial gov has not increased their fees for 10+ years. And when they finally did somewhat recently, it was something like an extra 25¢ per eligible client.

I think the first call went really well. I briefly discussed some of the ideas that I had to add value to the organization and her face lit up LOL. The nice part was that I didn't really have to "tell her about myself" but instead tell her about the how I can maximize opportunities which is ultimately the cusp of what I do everyday. The total amount of interviews is two, with the next one likely being next week.

The only big red flag right now is that a lot of expenses are paid out of pocket to be reimbursed later. I don't really have the cash flow to do that. And that they haven't figured out a salary range yet. So I didn't give my expectations because I don't want to shoot myself in the foot. That said, I got a follow up email 4 hrs after the interview asking to schedule in a quick call for tmr around 6AM, likely to discuss salary range. I'm pretty concerned about being offered sub 60K since while I like the idea of this job, I won't be able to afford the pay cut.

Aside from salary, everything else looks decent?

I still don't love the idea for banked hours instead of OT tho. While it's not expected, I should probably ask if it's banked at 1.5 or 1:1.

It's 3 weeks of vacation + 2 weeks christmas. Extended health (only at 50% coverage tho), 8 sick days (instead of the standard 5), federal gov stat days, and 35 hour work weeks.

I also don't love the idea of using my personal devices as work devices (ie. cell phone) but they pay $130/mo for home office expenses. Tbh I'd rather them provide me a laptop and a cell phone and I'd just write off home office expenses instead.

Travel comp is per federally standards - accom at < $200/night, per diem, mileage at CRA rates.

Other expenses to meet clients or what not is reimbursed every month + one week, but I don't have the cash flow for this LOL. Would be nice to churn some cards tho.

[6793026]

from board of trade and local chapters... been to a lot of them.
I attended using company's money but that's it...

[Eff-1]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

The only big red flag right now is that a lot of expenses are paid out of pocket to be reimbursed later. I don't really have the cash flow to do that. And that they haven't figured out a salary range yet. So I didn't give my expectations because I don't want to shoot myself in the foot. That said, I got a follow up email 4 hrs after the interview asking to schedule in a quick call for tmr around 6AM, likely to discuss salary range. I'm pretty concerned about being offered sub 60K since while I like the idea of this job, I won't be able to afford the pay cut.

Aside from salary, everything else looks decent?

I still don't love the idea for banked hours instead of OT tho. While it's not expected, I should probably ask if it's banked at 1.5 or 1:1.

It's 3 weeks of vacation + 2 weeks christmas. Extended health (only at 50% coverage tho), 8 sick days (instead of the standard 5), federal gov stat days, and 35 hour work weeks.

I also don't love the idea of using my personal devices as work devices (ie. cell phone) but they pay $130/mo for home office expenses. Tbh I'd rather them provide me a laptop and a cell phone and I'd just write off home office expenses instead.

Travel comp is per federally standards - accom at < $200/night, per diem, mileage at CRA rates.

Other expenses to meet clients or what not is reimbursed every month + one week, but I don't have the cash flow for this LOL. Would be nice to churn some cards tho.

Here's my take, for what it's worth.

Paying up front and expensing later is very standard/common.

For employess that have cash flow issues, you can sometimes request a cash advance prior to accruing expenses if finance dept allows it.

Your only other option is asking them to provide you with a company card that they pay directly, but you don't see very often because of the liability risk.

Based on your description, my guess for a salary range is $70k - $90k? As you are new to the industry, you're probably going to land in the lower half of that. If you wanted to negotiate, you could conside asking for a variable/bonus component based on hitting certain metrics. Less risk for them, they may be more amicable to it.

This sounds like a job with lots of travel required with working events and client entertaining, so I think asking or negotiating around OT and banked hours is a turnoff. Either you're ready to work the hours required, or I'd hire someone else who isn't going to ask for stuff like that. It's not a union role, it's salaried corporate work. Instead I'd ask them what their policies are around work life balance and see what they say.

Personally I prefer using my own devices and I think $130/mo is super generous. That's just me though. You can still write off anything above that.

Here is the federal gov't schedule for travel expenses. https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...ndix.html#toc2

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by Eff-1

Based on your description, my guess for a salary range is $70k - $90k? As you are new to the industry, you're probably going to land in the lower half of that. If you wanted to negotiate, you could conside asking for a variable/bonus component based on hitting certain metrics. Less risk for them, they may be more amicable to it.

Based on what's posted, my guess is $48-60K, with extremes of $45K being bottom end.

Governments and non-profits just don't make moola.

[bcrdukes]

If non-profits made money, they can't be considered a non-profit, would they?

[HonestTea]

Originally Posted by Gerbs

Based on what's posted, my guess is $48-60K, with extremes of $45K being bottom end.

Governments and non-profits just don't make moola.

That's my guess as well.

[Dbone]

Sounds like they want to set him up as a contractor rather than employee.

My wife worked like this for a few years. All the downsides of being an employee, with all the downsides of being a contractor. Good times.

[Gerbs]

Work 2-3 jobs, make director money!

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by Gerbs

Work 2-3 jobs, make director money!

Some directors I know make $65K.

I think BIC_BAWS wants to make more?????

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Some directors I know make $65K.

I think BIC_BAWS wants to make more?????

Reminds me of a shady realty “firm” where everyone on the website had the title of “VP” but looked like Kingsway used car salesman

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Some directors I know make $65K.

I think BIC_BAWS wants to make more?????

You can make more than $65K from Uber