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EvoFire 12-16-2024 09:09 AM

Aware Me on Relays
 
My dad's Genesis Coupe has a bad fan relay.

It should be this guy
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Hyund.../dp/B00BJMFNPA

I called a friend at Hyundai but there was two problems.
1. They are backordered
2. They want $90 + tax for ONE relay, and I need two.

So I'm not strongly mechanically inclined, but I'm pretty sure Lordco would carry something equivalent. The relay itself has no markings on it other than a part number. How do I know a generic relay would have the correct specs for this? Or is any relay that has the same pinout would have the same spec?

Badhobz 12-16-2024 09:10 AM

Buy a new car.

This one is done.

trollface 12-16-2024 09:13 AM

No, relays have voltage and amp ratings. Think of them as spicy switches.

Your fuse box lid will usually have AMP ratings for said relay. 12v of course.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/123817355578

12v 50A

Are you aware now

EvoFire 12-16-2024 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9158214)
Buy a new car.

This one is done.

We've been discussing about a new car, but my dad is 71, and he doesn't want to give up his sports car.

We were thinking of picking up a i3 which means no gas, great sightlines, easy ingress and egress. But he won't give up the sports car.

His other argument was, he's not driving much, and he's probably not driving for much longer. Dropping 20k on a car so he can drive another 5 years doesn't make a whole lot of sense to him financially.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trollface (Post 9158215)
No, relays have voltage and amp ratings. Think of them as spicy switches.

Your fuse box lid will usually have AMP ratings for said relay. 12v of course.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/123817355578

12v 50A

Are you aware now

Thank you, will go find a 12v 50a relay.

That's my problem, I am so ignorant about electronics, I don't even know what to look for

Great68 12-16-2024 09:25 AM

Found another picture that showed some ID markings:

https://www.hyundaipartsdeal.com/res...bbc7bb87a5.jpg

Any automotive plug-in 12VDC, 50A relay should work. The pinouts on automotive relays are pretty standardized. Pins 85,86 are to the relay coil, 30 for incoming power, and 87 outgoing power.

trollface 12-16-2024 09:30 AM

I can't believe you're buying Rep relays

bcrdukes 12-16-2024 09:33 AM

Try also RockAuto.com! :)

underscore 12-16-2024 09:34 AM

The pinout looks standard, there's a chance they did something screwy but I don't think that's very common these days. If they used a standard relay for the fan did they use the same for something else? You might be able to just yoink them from the horn or something less essential for testing. Like others said the main thing is match or exceed the current rating.

Don't buy something like that on Amazon though. Tossing that part number into RockAuto and they have genuine Hyundai for $58 or Hella for $8.

Edit: The Hella shows the pinout, compare it to the pinout on one at the store but that looks conventional to me. Just check the fuse box to see if there's a space for the extra pin most generic relays have.

Hella:

https://www.rockauto.com/info/806/933332531.MAIN.jpg

Generic:

https://abra-electronics.com/images/...ed/169/24v.png

Edit 2: looking at it again the Hella relay has a protection resistor as well. I'm not sure if the Hyundai one has that or not but it might be worth at least calling around to try and get a proper aftermarket one first before trying a fully generic one.

Badhobz 12-16-2024 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9158218)
We've been discussing about a new car, but my dad is 71, and he doesn't want to give up …

Get a new dad.

This one is done

EvoFire 12-16-2024 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9158221)
Try also RockAuto.com! :)

Takes too long, probably going to go to Lordco to buy a replacement

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9158222)
The pinout looks standard, there's a chance they did something screwy but I don't think that's very common these days. If they used a standard relay for the fan did they use the same for something else? You might be able to just yoink them from the horn or something less essential for testing. Like others said the main thing is match or exceed the current rating.

Don't buy something like that on Amazon though. Tossing that part number into RockAuto and they have genuine Hyundai for $58 or Hella for $8.

Edit: The Hella shows the pinout, compare it to the pinout on one at the store but that looks conventional to me. Just check the fuse box to see if there's a space for the extra pin most generic relays have.

Hella:

https://www.rockauto.com/info/806/933332531.MAIN.jpg

Generic:

https://abra-electronics.com/images/...ed/169/24v.png

Edit 2: looking at it again the Hella relay has a protection resistor as well. I'm not sure if the Hyundai one has that or not but it might be worth at least calling around to try and get a proper aftermarket one first before trying a fully generic one.

Good call on finding one that is equivalent in the fuse box. Will test now.



Why the fuck does it have to break when it's borderline freezing and raining.... :yuno:

Badhobz 12-16-2024 10:52 AM

is he still driving this "sports" car even in this weather? he's a brave old man. I hope you got him some decent tires.

EvoFire 12-16-2024 11:07 AM

He's on winters right now, and during summer he's on Michelin AS4, all good stuff none of that snowdragon BS lol

I just checked the relays, the fan is the only one that's 50a. All the other relays are 30 or lower so I'm gonna go buy 2 new relays to test.

underscore 12-16-2024 11:40 AM

At least in this weather the fan is less critical. If this happened in August it'd be a lot worse.

EvoFire 12-16-2024 01:05 PM

Of course no one has a relay in Vancouver.

West Can said they'll have one tmr, matches what I need except it's rated for 70amp

trollface 12-16-2024 01:15 PM

Lordco, Worldpac, crappy tire, Lee's eletronics.

donk. 12-16-2024 01:19 PM

@trollface

Fuses have entered the chat

trollface 12-16-2024 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9158270)
@trollface

Fuses have entered the chat

Yeah, I'm special sometimes.

yray 12-16-2024 01:28 PM

jump it

#land rover

bcrdukes 12-16-2024 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trollface (Post 9158268)
Lordco, Worldpac, crappy tire, Lee's eletronics.

He can't buy from World Pac as he's not a shop.

GLOW 12-16-2024 04:51 PM

impressed by the amount of support on this thread
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Intertitle.jpg

BIC_BAWS 12-16-2024 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9158284)
He can't buy from World Pac as he's not a shop.

He can ask his boys at Overdrive to worldpac it tho.. he sits in the Overdrive friends + family tent anyway

EvoFire 12-16-2024 07:43 PM

I did drop by OD today, but for a different reason. Ended up getting my relays from my dad's mechanic friend, got the Hella ones for $20 each.

EvoFire 12-17-2024 03:30 PM

Put the car back together last night after the kids went to bed. Car started today, battery wasn't drained. Dad went to pick up my son from school, when he came home the fan was working correctly. Job done, thanks all!

Badhobz 12-17-2024 04:57 PM

Excellent. Well done.

Still should have bought him a new car. Then you steal it when he croaks. Gt3 beetles make a perfect daily for a 70 year old ah bak.

BIC_BAWS 12-17-2024 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9158436)
Gt3 beetles make a perfect daily for a 70 year old ah bak.

GT3 Touring with the rear seats for the kids


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