Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum. |  | |
03-15-2025, 09:23 AM
|
#1 | I STILL don't get it
Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: canada
Posts: 497
Thanked 1,160 Times in 195 Posts
Failed 188 Times in 41 Posts
| Hudson’s Bay to liquidate entire business, still seeking additional capital https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business...ional-capital/
Yikes and a sad end to such a storied company in Canada.
__________________
'15 Mustang GT | '20 Raptor | '98 Supra TT 6-Speed
|
| |
03-15-2025, 09:54 AM
|
#2 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Van
Posts: 5,166
Thanked 2,151 Times in 1,148 Posts
Failed 221 Times in 133 Posts
|
#not in recession. Yea I feel sad too, I remember going to the Bay and Zellers when I was a kid. I thought they had a lot of money in real estate? But I guess offices/ commercial values tanked.
|
| |
03-15-2025, 10:19 AM
|
#3 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Burnaby
Posts: 4,510
Thanked 6,003 Times in 2,218 Posts
Failed 271 Times in 107 Posts
|
10% off
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by MG1 In Mike we Trust | |
| |
03-15-2025, 10:22 AM
|
#4 | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Ricemond
Posts: 10,313
Thanked 12,071 Times in 4,342 Posts
Failed 499 Times in 257 Posts
|
Sniff sniff…. The last department store…. Etons, fields, zellers, sears, and now the bay. What a sad day
__________________ Geriatric Motoring Crub Member #444 |
| |
03-15-2025, 10:38 AM
|
#5 | RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: YVR
Posts: 926
Thanked 694 Times in 346 Posts
Failed 64 Times in 21 Posts
|
I always thought that if they rebranded themselves as a smaller high end department store like asia they could’ve been competitive to holt renfrew but they decided to stay in the nineties
|
| |
03-15-2025, 10:46 AM
|
#6 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Van
Posts: 5,166
Thanked 2,151 Times in 1,148 Posts
Failed 221 Times in 133 Posts
|
Yea department stores in Asia be booming and they actually have shit, like everything under the sun to buy
|
| |
03-15-2025, 10:47 AM
|
#7 | in the butt
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,954
Thanked 3,776 Times in 1,368 Posts
Failed 186 Times in 99 Posts
|
No one in here is sad about it, you all shop on scamazon and support local stores going out of business
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Money i hate people who sound like they smoke meth then pretend like they matter.
Originally Posted by ilovebacon
Does anyone have a pair of 25 pounds one-inch hole for sale at a reasonable price?
Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS
pretty clean looking car tho... Kinda gay | |
| |
03-15-2025, 10:51 AM
|
#8 | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,228
Thanked 1,121 Times in 537 Posts
Failed 4 Times in 4 Posts
|
I like shopping at the Bay for clothing - it's not glitzy but they have a decent selection of European and premium brands under the same roof. Between Bay days, random sales, and solid clearance sections, I always get much nicer clothing for only a bit more than shopping at Winners / Marshalls.
Stuck in the 90s as noclue says is the the same sentiment with all of my friends. My bigger problem with the Bay is finding good deals and walking out with a dent in my wallet.
|
| |
03-15-2025, 10:54 AM
|
#9 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Van
Posts: 5,166
Thanked 2,151 Times in 1,148 Posts
Failed 221 Times in 133 Posts
|
Who buys clothes on Amazon,  and I can only afford Costco sale clothes now |
| |
03-15-2025, 11:26 AM
|
#10 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: revscene
Posts: 4,576
Thanked 5,098 Times in 1,772 Posts
Failed 167 Times in 65 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMDreams #not in recession. Yea I feel sad too, I remember going to the Bay and Zellers when I was a kid. I thought they had a lot of money in real estate? But I guess offices/ commercial values tanked. | They do have a lot of money in real estate. Hudson's Bay has been owned since 2008 by NRDC Equity Partners, a private investment firm controlled by the American retail and real estate mogul Richard Baker, who has a record of scooping up retailers and often profiting from their valuable real-estate holdings.
Their demise started by this acquisition. The end game was never about the retail operation, but rather the sizable real estate holding that HBC held. The real estate portfolio was actually more valuable than the retail business itself.
HBC's retail business up to 2008 suffered the same changing consumer demands and retail landscape that saw Eatons, Sears and many other department store chains in the US go out of business. They were outmoded before Amazon really became the retail powerhouse that they are now.
But back to HBC: People in the industry new the end was near for the Bay when Pathlight Capital extended a $500M loan to HBC at a very predatory rate of interest (think retail credit card rates).
The loan was secured by the Bay's real estate including their leases, and Pathlight's position was ahead of all the landlords'.
The end play of Pathlight was always to get control of the real estate through the backdoor.
They have now achieved this.
HBC will restructure down to 40 stores from 80. They will be allowed to disclaim all of the leases of their worst locations. They will assign their middle of the road locations to retailers like Walmart (at a profit) and either sell or redevelop the assets they own outright.
Pathlight, as HBC'S largest secured creditor gets to call the shots.
HBC has been on the bubble for quite some time. They had a lease termination with a fee of 600K and had to pay the landlord in installments. They weren't getting any trade credit and thus the opportunity for Pathlight to step in was created.
Also, there's some rumblings that the dealings were not entirely arms length.
__________________
|| 18 FK8 | R-18692 | Rallye Red | 6 MT ||
|| SOLD 97 E36 M3 Sedan | Arctic Silver | 5MT ||
|| RIP 02 E46 330ci | Schwartz Black II | 5MT | M-Tech II | Black Cube | Shadowline | Stoff Laser/Anthrazit ||
|| RIP 02 E46 M3 | Carbon Black | 6MT ||
|
| |
03-15-2025, 11:29 AM
|
#11 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: right here
Posts: 5,053
Thanked 4,841 Times in 859 Posts
Failed 884 Times in 162 Posts
|
I try not to shop Amazon but last Sunday I went to Sport Chek to buy some hikers. Merrell Men's Moab 3's.
$175.
at Amazon, $103. AND, delivered by dinner that same day.
I asked for a price match, they laughed.
anyways, goodbye Hudsons Bay. I'm not surprised one bit. they never adapted to the times, and I have no idea why.
__________________
now what?
Last edited by N.V.M.; 03-15-2025 at 11:35 AM.
|
| |
03-15-2025, 01:55 PM
|
#12 | I subscribe to the Fight Club ONLY
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paradise, BC
Posts: 7,335
Thanked 7,082 Times in 2,892 Posts
Failed 255 Times in 141 Posts
|
The problem with HBC's real estates is -- those places are not easy to repurpose or liquidate. So on paper, it is worth a lot. But in practice, it is really hard to find a new buyer, or turn it into something with a renewed purpose.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by westopher The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid. | |
| |
03-15-2025, 02:15 PM
|
#13 | Hacked RS to become a mod
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Hong Kong
Posts: 54,008
Thanked 25,005 Times in 8,711 Posts
Failed 1,546 Times in 694 Posts
|
Goodbye to another remnant of colonialist capitalism |
| |
03-15-2025, 03:16 PM
|
#14 | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,731
Thanked 792 Times in 394 Posts
Failed 152 Times in 50 Posts
|
i guess i better use the gift card i have....
|
| |
03-15-2025, 04:13 PM
|
#15 | I STILL don't get it
Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: canada
Posts: 497
Thanked 1,160 Times in 195 Posts
Failed 188 Times in 41 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Goodbye to another remnant of colonialist capitalism  | I am rolling my eyes here...
9800 jobs will be lost
__________________
'15 Mustang GT | '20 Raptor | '98 Supra TT 6-Speed
|
| |
03-15-2025, 04:41 PM
|
#16 | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Ricemond
Posts: 10,313
Thanked 12,071 Times in 4,342 Posts
Failed 499 Times in 257 Posts
|
Hey !!!! Ya know what that means ?!?! Seiko watches for everyone !!!! Ahhhhhh me go rummage through its shit now.
__________________ Geriatric Motoring Crub Member #444 |
| |
03-15-2025, 04:50 PM
|
#17 | Rs has made me the man i am today!
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada
Posts: 3,015
Thanked 1,363 Times in 570 Posts
Failed 28 Times in 12 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Badhobz Hey !!!! Ya know what that means ?!?! Seiko watches for everyone !!!! Ahhhhhh me go rummage through its shit now. | Snowflake? |
| |
03-15-2025, 05:18 PM
|
#18 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: right here
Posts: 5,053
Thanked 4,841 Times in 859 Posts
Failed 884 Times in 162 Posts
|
could use a new Stearns Foster mattress though.
__________________
now what?
|
| |
03-15-2025, 06:29 PM
|
#19 | Hacked RS to become a mod
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Hong Kong
Posts: 54,008
Thanked 25,005 Times in 8,711 Posts
Failed 1,546 Times in 694 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D I am rolling my eyes here...
9800 jobs will be lost | That's not the point, but I'm glad you're posting
|
| |
03-15-2025, 06:32 PM
|
#20 | I STILL don't get it
Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: canada
Posts: 497
Thanked 1,160 Times in 195 Posts
Failed 188 Times in 41 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp That's not the point, but I'm glad you're posting | That is the point of this thread
__________________
'15 Mustang GT | '20 Raptor | '98 Supra TT 6-Speed
|
| |
03-15-2025, 07:07 PM
|
#21 | Hacked RS to become a mod
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Hong Kong
Posts: 54,008
Thanked 25,005 Times in 8,711 Posts
Failed 1,546 Times in 694 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D That is the point of this thread | Never "roll your eyes" at history
And yes, it still sucks that a large Canadian company is dying
|
| |
03-15-2025, 07:18 PM
|
#22 | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 2,910
Thanked 4,026 Times in 1,076 Posts
Failed 381 Times in 125 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMDreams Who buys clothes on Amazon,  and I can only afford Costco sale clothes now  | My whole fiy in from Aamzon. It's actually very good quality for the price.
Toy R Us is calling it quits. CLosing the showroom.
__________________
Aspiring BMW owner
2024 Camry TRD Edition
|
| |
03-15-2025, 07:25 PM
|
#23 | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Burnaby
Posts: 2,519
Thanked 2,986 Times in 802 Posts
Failed 412 Times in 112 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by noclue I always thought that if they rebranded themselves as a smaller high end department store like asia they could’ve been competitive to holt renfrew but they decided to stay in the nineties | By the time they realized they had to pivot they had no cash left and no one was crazy enough to try and inject capital.
The Bay was dying like 10 years ago. Todays economic climate didn't help, but The Bay wasn't going to make it regardless.
|
| |
03-15-2025, 09:40 PM
|
#24 | My homepage has been set to RS
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: vancouver
Posts: 2,434
Thanked 950 Times in 291 Posts
Failed 287 Times in 95 Posts
| |
| |
03-18-2025, 11:47 AM
|
#25 | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,731
Thanked 792 Times in 394 Posts
Failed 152 Times in 50 Posts
|
the bay downtown has zero functioning escalators and elevators....wish i knew that before i went down with my family and had to carry the stroller up to the 6th fucking floor.
|
| |  | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:16 PM. |