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Old 04-14-2025, 12:59 PM   #1
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2026 Subaru Trailseeker

New Subaru, supposedly to be revealed at the New York Auto Show on Wednesday:



There's speculation that it's twins with the upcoming Toyota bz5x:
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Is the intention to build these cars and let them sit on a lot unsold?
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But trailseeker!! It's the call of the wilderness. The outdoor thrill of the hunt... for adventure!!
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I think you're missing the point here. The tailgate is clearly covered in so much dust. From the trail. They seeked it and then they found it. And then they drove on it.
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Unless my friend from the inside is BS'ing me, the Trailseeker is an Ascent-sized 3-row EV based on a Toyota EV platform. There's also a Crosstrek-sized EV coming in the near future - also based on a Toyota platform.
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It honestly kinda looks like a Honda prologue with that long and flattened look. The all glass sides looks cool but if that's only a prototype I doubt it will make it into production.
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Because an EV is exactly what I want to go trailseeking in
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Non-beliEVers...!!
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My friend got us press passes to NYIAS … I’m super pumped to see more electric CUVs and Hyundai Palisades reveal /s

Maserati has 20 minutes; what could they be announcing that’s going to require the same amount of time as Toyota?

VW has a full 55 minutes; 25 more than anyone else
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New Subaru, supposedly to be revealed at the New York Auto Show on Wednesday:



There's speculation that it's twins with the upcoming Toyota bz5x:
It’s gonna be a BZ5x. Kentucky’s been retooling and got 1.3B out into it to produce a 3 row EV.

Batteries will be LG; none of which fast charge well. The LG Ioniq charge 20% slower than the SK ON Ioniqs.

Tbh LG screwed GM too - they led a lot of component design; the blazer/equinox charge super slow and don’t fast charge well with AC on.
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Ah looks like VW will be showing new 3rd gen Tiguan, likely the LWB Tayron/Tiguan Hybrid.
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Ain’t gonna save them from circling the drain. I’m almost certain VW will pull out of the NA market shortly. Tariffs or no tariffs.
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I finally saw a plated id buzz on the streets, and I'm like who's stupid enough to pay $100k for this.
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I finally saw a plated id buzz on the streets, and I'm like who's stupid enough to pay $100k for this.
I went from seeing 0 ID Buzzes in the first 3 months to 4-5 within the last week. Same goes for the Macan EV.

Given how many BZ4Xs are out there in Vancouver, I think the BZ5X/Trailseeker will sell ok. The Solterras are moving alright with a $12k adjustment from Subaru Canada.
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Yeah Audi’s pretty done - their leases were already uncompetitive and the tariffs hit all of their volume sellers.

Curious what makes ya think they’re gonna exit though:

Sales volume wise, Volkswagen/Audi/Porsche are up quite a bit from last year even with fairly old product.
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I don't get the appeal of VW/ Audi. Like who buys them, they seem like the German Nissan, and the only reason you buy is you want a German car, but too poor for Benz or BMW. They always seem to be the more conservative plain version of that class. Not as nice, doesn't drive as good, or as fast, cheaper looking. But still have 100% of the issues.
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Image wise in NY, BMW and MB is not that socially acceptable unless it’s a chauffeur driven S class.
- M car or coupe? South Brooklyn Trump supporter/street racer vibes
- SUV give Long Island and not the Hamptons
- MB coupe/convertible is hood vibes
Audi/Porsche are the acceptable liberal high end working professional car.

Product wise
- 2015-2019 A4 had the F30 beat with interior quality and driver assists.
- RS3/6 still have a real inline 5 and V8 compared to turbo I4 AMG/PHEV M5
- A7 is beloved by active dads in CA/CO/MA
- 3.0 Superfharged Q5/S4/A6/7/8 were infinitely more reliable than N54/55 BMW

A lot of the south and north east really values stealthier wealth… Audi supports that.
If you’re in a flashier place, the Porsche/Lambo equivalent of the Audi product supports that too.

Keep in mind, California alone moves more units than all of Canada
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Turns out...

It's a Solterra wagon!

Seems like roughly similar specs as to the updated Solterra / BZ4x:
-375hp dual motor
-420ish km range
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I mean it's not awful. Surprised they didn't try to jam a 3rd row in there. Maybe the Toyota twin will attempt it.
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So ev outback, it looks nothing like the render. The current solterra is pretty wagon as it is with the hatch back
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I quite like this - it's better looking than the new Outback/facelifted Solterra and 375hp powertrain was a surprise.

An EV Outback / Solterra wagon is a pretty apt description. This would be on my radar if I was in the market.
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A lot of "meh" on NYIAS floor about the trailseeker / solterra
Mostly because it's going to fast charge like dogshit even though they fixed the range and NACS.
Consumers don't want choice/compromise - they want confidence and the Trailseeker/Solterra offer nothing here.

Outback has much better reception because they took away a lot of the compromise:
- Compared to old Subaru Screens got fixed, now using Toyota system
- Compared to Toyota/Honda Hands free level 2 self drive till 85mph.
- Compared to old Wilderness Adaptive dampers that control body roll and pitch more fix customer complaint
- All trims get water resistant leatherette, "Nappa" optional
- 2 inches taller, extra inch of ground clearance
- Steering from "WRX"

LMK if there are any other releases you want me to go look at on NYIAS floor (I have press pass)
VW is about to have their event.
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