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Old 01-14-2007, 04:51 PM   #1932
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self mutilation has very little to do with death, the same goes for ice. self-mutilation is a form of abuse, and not suicide (death)

plethora u4ria
death of the writers sole.
death of the tree.

Salar
the "demise" of ice is more of a transition from one element to another, and, again, not death
the tree doesnt die

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angels are dead souls

Salar
angels are freed souls

» dead soul is an oxymoron

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demise is death, how is that transformation?

Salar
demise isnt always death; demise could also mean the termination of a certain state/activity, and the transfer to another

plethora u4ria
aka, the death of a state.

Salar
hence, by stretching that definition, you could use it to describe the transformation of ice into water, but still not the death of the ice

» a state of ice doesnt die, it transforms

plethora u4ria
in addition, you would need to read the rest of the poem to have more context. just that excerpt doesnt do it justice or context.

Salar
» that's why i asked for more

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it'll be a book in the end

Salar
but that image, in its current format, is incomplete

plethora u4ria
i agree.

u have said, the ice doesn't die, but it transforms states.

the same can be said about life. with the confiscation of love, one changes (transforms). However many who have gone through the trauma, believe they "die" or at east a part of them dies.

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