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it's apes, not monkeys. more specifically, chimpanzees. and we did not evolve from them. we both share a common descendant ancestor
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well oops. your point still has no relevance. we could one day find out that we actually "share a common descendant ancestor" with an ape that lived under water named sam and it would still mean nothing to the argument.
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Originally Posted by observer
I have a fairly open mind but do not believe in God because it seems self-contradictory. It's not about proof but about reasonableness.
Inheriting a sin from an unrelated individual does not seem fair, yet God is supposed to be kind, loving and fair. "My way or the highway" justice doesn't seem loving either, what kind of religious freedom is God giving us, if we don't believe in him and we will be forever damned?
A world population created through incest seems utterly absurd, virgin conception seems ridiculous, and so does a talking snake.
One cannot easily prove that there is no flying elephants either, yet one does not believe in them, based on common sense.
Of course, I will be the first to admit that common sense is entirely subjective, based on ones intelligence, experience, and education.
The more we realize we don't know, the more we need science, or a scientific approach to guide us. If we leave all matters in the hands of religious priests, scientists such as Galileo Galilei will continue to be banned, as his findings contradict with religious teachings.
Science will always push the boundary creating heated confrontation with religion; in Galileo's time, it was the centre of the world debate, and currently it is of course creationism versus evolutionism.
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yes. the more we realize we don't know the more we need science. you got that right. but that still has no relevance whatsoever to the existence of a god. science has yet to produce proof that there is no god and that's the bottom line. bottom freaking line.
it's like saying there is absolutely no way in hell that there is life on other planets simply because we haven't found proof yet. in the eyes of modern science, and for those of you who watch discovery channel regularly, it would be totally absurd to utterly dismiss the theory of life on other planets just because there is no hard evidence. so why are the smart-asses outright dismissing the idea of god's existence? because there are a bunch of tools in robes running around talking about flying elephants or snakes that talk. it's far easier to reject things that are supported by silly and outrageous stories. when a redneck claims to have witnessed a UFO we say he's crazy. but when we see intelligent scientists say that there is life on other worlds then we say he's probably right. it's the same damn shit.
and once again, just because religion tells you to worship sacred animals, virgin mothers or a being called jehovah and rejects scientific facts, this is no basis to say that there is no god. all religions may be false for all we know. so what? it still doesn't prove anything. open your mind and separate religion from god. i mean REALLY open your mind. you atheists think you're so open minded but your ideas are not much better than that of a tv evangelist. a bit better, but not much.
yeah, science is our best path to knowledge but by no means does science know all. stop giving it all this credit it doesn't deserve. stop saying science alone will save us. science is only as good as our own intelligence and the fact is that relative to the universe, we don't know very much at all.
at this point it's far more intelligent to say that we just don't know.