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Old 10-06-2009, 11:09 AM   #75
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I'm glad Taylor is posting but I have to elaborate on his post as it really struck a chord with me.
We should have a beer one day, your posts are always bang on!

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School is a sham for some things, but not for everything. For med or law I can see value in school. A technical element of some kind is important.
Agreed. Trades (electrician, plumber, ...) included in technical elements.

I will also add management and human resource skills. These are in huge demand as finding capable people who can manage or interact with others is not easy. There's lots of management promoted into positions without adequate training.

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School has it's place. The problem is, the school is a business that has done a great job of brainwashing everyone into buying into their lies and false promises.

While I can also see value for those who wish to learn 'some' elements of something, it is important not to live in a box taking everything the school says as the law of the land. World, life and experience holds the key.
Have you read Ishmael? or either of the sequels Story of B or My Ishmael? Quinn does an excellent job of outlining how school is just part of the system that keeps young people out of the workforce longer, cause the workforce cannot sustain so many workers.

Trades jobs in the past were all about apprenticeship, now you have to go to school before apprenticing, learning more than you'll need.

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This is why many university grads end up starting at the bottom of the corporate ladder anyway.
As Quinn points out, its part of the system. If a university degree was worth what its advertised to be, you'd start near the middle (or top if you're good). Yet the system couldn't sustain older employees being replaced by more educated, vibrate and energetic grads, so the system was designed to stuff them into the bottom of the rung even with all the advanced education.

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I think most business schools and finance classes are pointless and actually lead you down the wrong path. I'm a University Grad with plenty of designations after the fact. The reason? I finished school hoping to have it made and I didn't. I took designation after designation hoping that I would be enlightened and learn how to make money.

I made money using NONE of the tools that were given to me through professional education. In fact, in many cases, I had to defy those rules that were pounded in my head during my formal education. In the end, I learned by actually understanding the HOW and then actually doing it the way others do. Not the way a text book told me to.
You needed my mom. She gave me the best advice ever when I set off for school:
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The day you enter university is the day you receive your degree, as long as you stick with it you'll get it. Don't get discouraged cause you won't learn what you want, the courses won't go at the high pace you desire, cause the piece of paper is a necessary evil to open more doors. Have fun, here's a case of beer.
My engineering degree has for the most part been useless in the real world, yet it opened the doors I needed and I've learned the rest myself.

A love of reading is the best asset to get far in life.

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I'm not going to thread-jack but I could write a book on this.
There are books written on this I can lend you some.
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