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Originally Posted by hk20000
I don't think you can say moving the shift stick sideways as not being "gestalt" (yeah I'm from siat too fuck me)
because in manual gear changes there's still sideways action and the left side of the H pattern is always of lower number than those on the right?
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Well, I took account of that too, but I figured that majority of the movement is up and down even from 2nd gear to 3rd gear in a manual car. You're in SIAT too?

what year?