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My post on fitfreak.net.......
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Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
Realistically from what I can recall, it was a similar incident such as the current one with J's Racing, where A & J Racing was actually caught reproducing Spoon Sports infamous N1 exhaust and then sold them as a genuine product without the authorization from Spoon Sports.
That's right. Numerous flame wars went on regarding to different stuff on honda-acura.net, honda-tech, revscene.net(vancouver local forum) etc since late 1990s.
I know the guys at A&J & started dealing with them since 1997. And I used to be on honda-acura.net & honda-tech quite a lot back then. Think it started off with whether A&J or Boom Plus Toys was the legit SPOON distributor in N.America wayyyyyyyyy back then. I've seen people bashing A&J on different SPOON/Endless/Buddy Club products that they carried/carry, bashing Honda NA setup that they used to mainly go for, bashing the way of "building the cars for corners". But quite some of these stuff got pretty popular after years....
- spoon equipped/jdm cars all over the internet
- track days/time attack
- wilder & wilder NA setup now compare with NOS & turbo etc in the late 90s
And then T1R exhaust items came out. Flame war went on again. Some of u guys probably read about those T1R Vs TYPE ONE Japan and if they're related kinda argument way back then(still going on & on). And I wonder if anyone here remember a header test on HT quite awhile ago. SPOON/Mugen/Jun/T1R Vs. Hytech/SMSP kinda stuff.
Some of these flame wars came on when SPOON switched their distributor if I remember correctly? And then now J's.....
I personally don't know whether A&J sold fake J's exhaust. Since I'm not a big fan of J's racing anyway. So I never looked at the J's item that the guys had on display. Good quality titanium are expensive to begin with, like ARC & Amuse etc. J's Ti exhaust are cheaper, but still not THAT cheap?
If I wanna copy I'd probably do another Twin-Loop, a true 2.5" version coz after all everyone knows it's Mugen. At least it will cost me less to manufacture coz it's stainless steel but not Ti More average people can afford to buy this nice exhaust.
When I shop for parts they're not the only guys I go for. Ben KNOWS that I'm fucking picky & shop all over the place. And he KNOWS I do squeeze him like crazy for discount sometimes. But for the SPOON/Zeal/Endless/Buddy Club/T1R/Advan/Exedy/JDM Honda/Bride/HKB product that I bought from these guys in the last 13years never failed on me. I don't have much complain about this local shop. Well, other than waiting for a Bride rail for 4months GOD DAMN it BEN!
If u say the T1R/Exedy clutch is a rip off. Exchange rate changes ALL the time, the best bet is to call/email/PM them for price. I have this set of T1R/Exedy clutch for about 25000km now. Went through 3 HARSH lapping day here in BC & in WA, quite some hard launch in many autocross events & bunch of stop & go Vancouver downtown driving. Clutch still grip very well.....
Anyway, sorry about my bad English. Just my 0.02.....
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