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yokomo930 · 11-09-2010, 02:03 PM

Ok, my first post

I am not going to talk about handling, pricing, status, etc.

Euro cars tend to have more bugs because of their complexity. Totally just my
guess but I am dare to say if you take apart a MB/BMW down to individual bits and pieces and screws, it will have 2x number of parts than a Honda/Toyota.

For a simple job such as battery holder, Honda would give you a plastic base, two threaded rod, two butterfly screws, and a hold-down bar and call it for the day.

MB would put together a team of 10 designers/engineers for 2 months to come up with a super solid battery holder that will keep the battery in place
when going at 200+ km/hr. They will give you a metal base, several interlocking metal pieces that are screwed together, a factory heat shield
as it's un-wise to leave your battery in the open engine bat. The battery will be hold down at the base of the battery, instead of using a hold-down bar pressing from the top.

Complicated ? Over-engineered ? Sure, if you want to say so. But I bet it does the job a lot better than the Honda/Toyota approach.

Euro design is just more solid.

Since I am talking about battery, I recall my Dad's MB ML SUV's oem MB battery lasted him 9 years and 100K km. Between my wife and I we have had 3 new Japanese cars (Acura, Honda, Nissan) and none of their factory battery last over 5 years.

Sure, who gives a damn about battery holder or oem battery, and Honda doesn't make battery anyway... but just a tiny point to illustrate how Euro cars are more solid in design, built, and principal.

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yokomo930 NOOB, Not Quite a Regular! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: BC Posts: 35 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts Failed 3 Times in 1 Post	Ok, my first post I am not going to talk about handling, pricing, status, etc. Euro cars tend to have more bugs because of their complexity. Totally just my guess but I am dare to say if you take apart a MB/BMW down to individual bits and pieces and screws, it will have 2x number of parts than a Honda/Toyota. For a simple job such as battery holder, Honda would give you a plastic base, two threaded rod, two butterfly screws, and a hold-down bar and call it for the day. MB would put together a team of 10 designers/engineers for 2 months to come up with a super solid battery holder that will keep the battery in place when going at 200+ km/hr. They will give you a metal base, several interlocking metal pieces that are screwed together, a factory heat shield as it's un-wise to leave your battery in the open engine bat. The battery will be hold down at the base of the battery, instead of using a hold-down bar pressing from the top. Complicated ? Over-engineered ? Sure, if you want to say so. But I bet it does the job a lot better than the Honda/Toyota approach. Euro design is just more solid. Since I am talking about battery, I recall my Dad's MB ML SUV's oem MB battery lasted him 9 years and 100K km. Between my wife and I we have had 3 new Japanese cars (Acura, Honda, Nissan) and none of their factory battery last over 5 years. Sure, who gives a damn about battery holder or oem battery, and Honda doesn't make battery anyway... but just a tiny point to illustrate how Euro cars are more solid in design, built, and principal.